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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 738897 More actions · Answer 1

I don't quite know how I feel about this person, though I haven't looked through many posts. I do see them thanking people, which is (sadly) all too rare.

I may or may not disagree with your decisions, but I respect them. We each have to decide who we help, and to what extent. Valid reasons and arguments to do either.

Jeffrey Williams SSC Guru Points: 90350 More actions · Answer 2

Steve Jones - SSC Editor wrote:

I don't quite know how I feel about this person, though I haven't looked through many posts. I do see them thanking people, which is (sadly) all too rare.
I may or may not disagree with your decisions, but I respect them. We each have to decide who we help, and to what extent. Valid reasons and arguments to do either.

Not sure which one you are referring to - but I do want to clarify that I still attempt to help them. However, I have changed my approach to more of a coaching/mentoring approach instead of providing finished working code. If that doesn't work and all that person wants is someone to write the code for them, it becomes obvious that is what they are doing and it can be addressed.

Jeffrey Williams
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 738897 More actions · Answer 3

No one in particular, just the discussion in general.

I would prefer most people teach/mentor, rather than just provide code. As much as I like seeing solutions when I have a question, I also appreciate the explanation of what I've done wrong, or some hints to help guide me.

Just putting code as a response is not something I like to do.

Michael L John One Orange Chip Points: 27079 More actions · Answer 4

Jeffrey Williams wrote:

Steve Jones - SSC Editor wrote:
I don't quite know how I feel about this person, though I haven't looked through many posts. I do see them thanking people, which is (sadly) all too rare.
I may or may not disagree with your decisions, but I respect them. We each have to decide who we help, and to what extent. Valid reasons and arguments to do either.
Not sure which one you are referring to - but I do want to clarify that I still attempt to help them. However, I have changed my approach to more of a coaching/mentoring approach instead of providing finished working code. If that doesn't work and all that person wants is someone to write the code for them, it becomes obvious that is what they are doing and it can be addressed.

Exactly. I rarely "just give them code". I've ask "what have you tried" a lot just to see where they may be.

Unfortunately, there are a few folks who just provide some clearly far more complicated code than the poster will understand.

Michael L John
If you assassinate a DBA, would you pull a trigger?
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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004646 More actions · Answer 5

At least they live up to the name of this thread. 😀

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
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Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 399289 More actions · Answer 6

I try to help. I really don't look at who it is. I try.

Now, if they get demanding. I walk away. No need to argue or whatever. I helped, or I didn't. You're not paying me, so my obligations to you are pretty darned limited.

Still, I'll try.

And this isn't criticizing anyone who makes other choices, whether to do more, less, targeted, not, who cares. Except for the aspects of this place that fall under my job (a bunch of it), this is just about trying to help. As a volunteer, you're under zero obligations. Further, there's more than one right way. Follow your path.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004646 More actions · Answer 7

I normally do try. I even violated my own decision to "black ball" someone last night and tried to figure out what the heck it was they were talking about. They use terms like "I'm a newbie at SQL" but if you look at their history, they've been using SQL for almost 2 years. That's not exactly a "newbie" in my book but I may have to change my definition there. I've seen people that have been working with SQL for more than a decade that don't seem to have any more than newbie knowledge.

I also work too many hours at my real job and so I don't have a lot of time to figure out what the op wants or have 20 discussions trying to figure that out and so I'm finding that I just have to let some even interesting posts go.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 399289 More actions · Answer 8

Jeff Moden wrote:

I normally do try. I even violated my own decision to "black ball" someone last night and tried to figure out what the heck it was they were talking about. They use terms like "I'm a newbie at SQL" but if you look at their history, they've been using SQL for almost 2 years. That's not exactly a "newbie" in my book but I may have to change my definition there. I've seen people that have been working with SQL for more than a decade that don't seem to have any more than newbie knowledge.
I also work too many hours at my real job and so I don't have a lot of time to figure out what the op wants or have 20 discussions trying to figure that out and so I'm finding that I just have to let some even interesting posts go.

10 years of experience <> (1 year of experience) x 10

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt

Author of:
SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004646 More actions · Answer 9

Grant Fritchey wrote:

Jeff Moden wrote:
I normally do try. I even violated my own decision to "black ball" someone last night and tried to figure out what the heck it was they were talking about. They use terms like "I'm a newbie at SQL" but if you look at their history, they've been using SQL for almost 2 years. That's not exactly a "newbie" in my book but I may have to change my definition there. I've seen people that have been working with SQL for more than a decade that don't seem to have any more than newbie knowledge.
I also work too many hours at my real job and so I don't have a lot of time to figure out what the op wants or have 20 discussions trying to figure that out and so I'm finding that I just have to let some even interesting posts go.
10 years of experience <> (1 year of experience) x 10

Heh.... Yeah... You're definitely preaching to the choir there. Remember the "GETDATE()" question I asked in interviews?

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Thom A SSC Guru Points: 99143 More actions · Answer 10

Any one got any ideas why the discussion post for today's article, Can We Please Stop Sending Passwords Over the Wire?, has been marked as "spam"?

Thom~

Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
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Phil Parkin SSC Guru Points: 247180 More actions · Answer 11

Thom A wrote:

Any one got any ideas why the discussion post for today's article, Can We Please Stop Sending Passwords Over the Wire?, has been marked as "spam"?

Someone got trigger-happy and thought they saw the word 'airline' in there somewhere?

frederico_fonseca SSCoach Points: 16252 More actions · Answer 12

it was me - had already clicked button when I noticed mistake - did send the OP a message apologizing.

and yes it was pressure due to the spam abuse over last few days.

Michael L John One Orange Chip Points: 27079 More actions · Answer 13

Does anyone else immediately think of the Monty Python skit every time they see or hear the word “spam”???

Wonderful spam, marvelous spam.

Michael L John
If you assassinate a DBA, would you pull a trigger?
To properly post on a forum:
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/61537/

Steve Collins SSCrazy Points: 2231 More actions · Answer 14

SSC is under massive attack from rogue travel agents 🙂

Aus dem Paradies, das Cantor uns geschaffen, soll uns niemand vertreiben können

Ant-Green SSC Guru Points: 113566 More actions · Answer 15

Ant-Green

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March 3, 2022 at 12:53 pm

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Spam filter needs a kick it would seem