February 18, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Brandie Tarvin (2/18/2011)
Answered. @=)Probably not the answer you want to hear, though, Stefan.
It doesn't matter what answer I want to hear as long as it works. Of course, there's 2 types of "want" here 'cause I want to hear the answer that helps whatever that might be. A scientist follows the evidence wherever it might lead.
The other kind of answer I want to hear, I never do. Have I won the 300 million dollar lottery? I never hear a truthful "yes". : -)
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February 18, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
GSquared (2/18/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (2/18/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
I wouldn't have any problems with his poor English skills if he wasn't being such a jerk about other people's.I agree. In fact, I was mentally comparing him to my former co-workers. It appears he didn't take the time to "listen" (read and then re-read) the responses to his question.
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
As far as "touch base" goes, doesn't Cricket have bases as well?Yes, it does. But I believe "touch base" is totally American, referencing the baseball practice of touching the bases with the ball to call someone out. The nearest other reference I could find was "tagging up."
BTW, I posted more thoughts on this subject to my blog http://brandietarvin.livejournal.com/26347.html. I'm going to see how much slang I actually use on a daily basis. I'm going to try, anyway.
Every word you speak or write was "slang" at one point in time or another. English is the result to centuries of bastardizing other languages (mainly German and Latin), which themselves come from centuries of bastardizing prior languages. Take a look at some of the derivations of English words that go back to proto-Germanic or Indo-European, et al.
More French than Latin, though French is itself mostly a bastardization of Latin. We get that part of the language primarily through the Norman Conquest and French had become its own language by then.
If we're going to be specific about parentage, then it's mainly from Old French and the Saxon variant of Old High German. Modern English also has significant Italian and Spanish elements (Latin again, twice), but it has borrowed from just about every language on Earth at one time or another.
Old French (the sort spoken by the Norman conquerors under William) was a mix of German, Latin and Norse. After all, the very word "French" is a "slang" modified version of the name of a German tribe (the Franks - and that's just a reference to a type of spear, if I remember correctly). The "Normans" were descended from "North Men", which is all that "Norse" is meant to say as well, and they did still have an influence from that. But most of the grammar and structure were Latin, as well as enough of the vocabulary to consider it a Latin variant, more than anything else. And Old French is no more comprehensible to modern French speakers than Old English is to modern English speakers. (Old English is a German variant and sounds very, very little like "English".)
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February 18, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (2/18/2011)
Answered. @=)Probably not the answer you want to hear, though, Stefan.
It doesn't matter what answer I want to hear as long as it works. Of course, there's 2 types of "want" here 'cause I want to hear the answer that helps whatever that might be. A scientist follows the evidence wherever it might lead.
The other kind of answer I want to hear, I never do. Have I won the 300 million dollar lottery? I never hear a truthful "yes". : -)
Would winning 300-million Zimbabwe dollars count? That could be arranged.
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February 18, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
As far as "touch base" goes, doesn't Cricket have bases as well?
No. It has stumps and bails, wickets and creases. The ball has to hit the wicket (and knock the bails off) while the batsman is running (before he reaches the crease) to run him out.
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February 18, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Brandie Tarvin (2/18/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
I wouldn't have any problems with his poor English skills if he wasn't being such a jerk about other people's.I agree. In fact, I was mentally comparing him to my former co-workers. It appears he didn't take the time to "listen" (read and then re-read) the responses to his question.
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
As far as "touch base" goes, doesn't Cricket have bases as well?Yes, it does. But I believe "touch base" is totally American, referencing the baseball practice of touching the bases with the ball to call someone out.
You will never know just how much you have blasphemed!
Cricket has two creases. the batsman must be behind the crease and protect his wicket, which support bails. There are two sides of 11 men, one side is 'in', when all 11 men of the side which is 'in' are 'out', the other side are 'in'. In a full match (known as a 'test') both sides are in twice, though it is possible to be in only once and therefore only out once.
Before a game can be over for the day the side that is not 'in', has to bowl a minimum no. of overs. The game lasts up to 5 days and in the majority of cases ends in a draw.
understand?
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February 18, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Now a days, you do not see that many Draws in test. I am glad. Even though it takes 5 days, I prefer test over the One days or twenty20 otherwise known as pyjama cricket. 🙂
-Roy
February 18, 2011 at 12:47 pm
GSquared (2/18/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
GSquared (2/18/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (2/18/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
I wouldn't have any problems with his poor English skills if he wasn't being such a jerk about other people's.I agree. In fact, I was mentally comparing him to my former co-workers. It appears he didn't take the time to "listen" (read and then re-read) the responses to his question.
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
As far as "touch base" goes, doesn't Cricket have bases as well?Yes, it does. But I believe "touch base" is totally American, referencing the baseball practice of touching the bases with the ball to call someone out. The nearest other reference I could find was "tagging up."
BTW, I posted more thoughts on this subject to my blog http://brandietarvin.livejournal.com/26347.html. I'm going to see how much slang I actually use on a daily basis. I'm going to try, anyway.
Every word you speak or write was "slang" at one point in time or another. English is the result to centuries of bastardizing other languages (mainly German and Latin), which themselves come from centuries of bastardizing prior languages. Take a look at some of the derivations of English words that go back to proto-Germanic or Indo-European, et al.
More French than Latin, though French is itself mostly a bastardization of Latin. We get that part of the language primarily through the Norman Conquest and French had become its own language by then.
If we're going to be specific about parentage, then it's mainly from Old French and the Saxon variant of Old High German. Modern English also has significant Italian and Spanish elements (Latin again, twice), but it has borrowed from just about every language on Earth at one time or another.
Yep, one of the reasons I love English
Old French (the sort spoken by the Norman conquerors under William) was a mix of German, Latin and Norse. After all, the very word "French" is a "slang" modified version of the name of a German tribe (the Franks - and that's just a reference to a type of spear, if I remember correctly). The "Normans" were descended from "North Men", which is all that "Norse" is meant to say as well, and they did still have an influence from that. But most of the grammar and structure were Latin, as well as enough of the vocabulary to consider it a Latin variant, more than anything else. And Old French is no more comprehensible to modern French speakers than Old English is to modern English speakers. (Old English is a German variant and sounds very, very little like "English".)
Nice explanation.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
February 18, 2011 at 12:48 pm
GSquared (2/18/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (2/18/2011)
Answered. @=)Probably not the answer you want to hear, though, Stefan.
It doesn't matter what answer I want to hear as long as it works. Of course, there's 2 types of "want" here 'cause I want to hear the answer that helps whatever that might be. A scientist follows the evidence wherever it might lead.
The other kind of answer I want to hear, I never do. Have I won the 300 million dollar lottery? I never hear a truthful "yes". : -)
Would winning 300-million Zimbabwe dollars count? That could be arranged.
I suppose I should have specified an American lottery, either Mega Millions or Powerball.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
February 18, 2011 at 12:49 pm
GilaMonster (2/18/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
As far as "touch base" goes, doesn't Cricket have bases as well?No. It has stumps and bails, wickets and creases. The ball has to hit the wicket (and knock the bails off) while the batsman is running (before he reaches the crease) to run him out.
Huh, I always thought the batter ran back and forth between 2 bases. That's what I get for trusting the internet!
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
February 18, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Roy Ernest (2/18/2011)
Now a days, you do not see that many Draws in test. I am glad. Even though it takes 5 days, I prefer test over the One days or twenty20 otherwise known as pyjama cricket. 🙂
you won't be watching the world cup then? 🙂
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February 18, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
That's what I get for trusting the internet!
Yeah, its very overrated 😀
February 18, 2011 at 12:57 pm
george sibbald (2/18/2011)
You will never know just how much you have blasphemed!...
understand?
Hee. I guess it's my turn for the tar, feathers, mini-mags and titanium spork treatment. @=)
One of these days, I will actually sit down and find cricket on Beeb America. I've only ever seen it in Doctor Who, and that barely counted.
February 18, 2011 at 1:00 pm
george sibbald (2/18/2011)
Roy Ernest (2/18/2011)
Now a days, you do not see that many Draws in test. I am glad. Even though it takes 5 days, I prefer test over the One days or twenty20 otherwise known as pyjama cricket. 🙂you won't be watching the world cup then? 🙂
Cant because they are not showing it in any channels. 🙁
-Roy
February 18, 2011 at 1:00 pm
george sibbald (2/18/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (2/18/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
I wouldn't have any problems with his poor English skills if he wasn't being such a jerk about other people's.I agree. In fact, I was mentally comparing him to my former co-workers. It appears he didn't take the time to "listen" (read and then re-read) the responses to his question.
Stefan Krzywicki (2/18/2011)
As far as "touch base" goes, doesn't Cricket have bases as well?Yes, it does. But I believe "touch base" is totally American, referencing the baseball practice of touching the bases with the ball to call someone out.
You will never know just how much you have blasphemed!
Cricket has two creases. the batsman must be behind the crease and protect his wicket, which support bails. There are two sides of 11 men, one side is 'in', when all 11 men of the side which is 'in' are 'out', the other side are 'in'. In a full match (known as a 'test') both sides are in twice, though it is possible to be in only once and therefore only out once.
Before a game can be over for the day the side that is not 'in', has to bowl a minimum no. of overs. The game lasts up to 5 days and in the majority of cases ends in a draw.
understand?
HA! When those who are in are out then the others are in. Sounds more like Dr. Seuss' Sneetches than a sport! And people wonder why Americans find cricket confusing. : -)
What's an "over"? What's a "no ball"? I've heard that latter term quite often in the cricket scandal with the Pakistan team. I do like cricket, at least in theory. I have a feeling I'd have the same problem with it that I have with baseball. It is too slow to watch. Playing can be fun, but that doesn't happen often.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
February 18, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Gianluca Sartori (2/18/2011)
I have to admit it was my fault.If I didn't post on THE THREAD a "Lennie alert" nobody would have noticed, Lennie would have got his answer and everyone then would have lived happily thereafter.
I apologize for provoking another forgettable page in SSC history.
EDIT: Help! Somebody fix my Consecutio Temporum please!
Not true. I'd have seen that thread without you bringing it up on this thread. Please don't blame yourself for a bloody thing especially since you were one of the sane ones on that thread.
--Jeff Moden
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