October 1, 2019 at 11:33 am
Realise that the site is disliked by many (I agree that the community isn't as robust as it is here, or as well knit with many of you having meets at conferences and socially), however, anyone seen the "mass" resignation of moderators on the SE Network?
It seems that SE have a Code of Conduct change coming, which many of the moderators had concerns over. One moderator as a result of them disagreeing with the changes therefore had their permissions revoked. This has now led to another 20 mods resigning (or suspending) their activities on the network.
No one so far has stated specifically what the new Code is, but it does bode a question about what direction SE is trying to go now.
I do find SE a valuable resource, and as network for asking questions not related to SQL Server I do find myself on there often (especially Ask Ubuntu). If, however, that many mods are resigning based purely on the new CoC, and the actions that SE have already taken against their own volunteer(s) that constructively disagree with it (the CoC), then that does bode poorly on them in my view.
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October 1, 2019 at 3:47 pm
Whoa! That sure reads like a bit of a mess. I hope they can straighten it out. I can't say I'm a fan of SE, but I'm not actively opposed to them either.
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October 1, 2019 at 5:09 pm
Ouch. Don't use SE (not even signed up,) but that sounds like a bad show all around from reading the postings about it...
October 1, 2019 at 5:19 pm
Always hard when business interferes with the operation of things. I have no idea what happened, but likely it's humans behaving badly and being supported because it's good for business (or someone thinks it is).
I like SO/SE for many things, and I've found it to be great. Discussion is not one of these, but answering simple questions is fantastic there.
October 1, 2019 at 5:45 pm
I like SO/SE for many things, and I've found it to be great. Discussion is not one of these, but answering simple questions is fantastic there.
Heh..... when I've found answers on SO/SE they often end up buried deep in comments and have little to do with the original posted question.
October 1, 2019 at 6:13 pm
It seems that SE have a Code of Conduct change coming, which many of the moderators had concerns over. One moderator as a result of them disagreeing with the changes therefore had their permissions revoked. This has now led to another 20 mods resigning (or suspending) their activities on the network.
Wow, that does sound like a hot mess. I'm not active on SE or SO, so I only checked it out to see exactly what was going on over there. I was surprised to find that the fired moderator was one of my best friends in college.
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October 1, 2019 at 6:30 pm
SE = Stack Exchange?
SO = Stack Overflow?
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October 1, 2019 at 7:28 pm
SE = Stack Exchange?
SO = Stack Overflow?
Yep. Stack Overflow is just one site within the Stack Exchange Community. I think they have well over 100 now.
I like SO/SE for many things, and I've found it to be great. Discussion is not one of these, but answering simple questions is fantastic there.
I am far more active on SO now than I used to be be when I first signed up. I think it took me 4 years to actually start participating due to unwelcoming and unfriendly design it had back then. It's a lot better than it was now though, and I have used it as a great way to improve my "skills".
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October 1, 2019 at 8:06 pm
Robert Sterbal wrote:SE = Stack Exchange?
SO = Stack Overflow?
Yep. Stack Overflow is just one site within the Stack Exchange Community. I think they have well over 100 now.
Steve Jones - SSC Editor wrote:I like SO/SE for many things, and I've found it to be great. Discussion is not one of these, but answering simple questions is fantastic there.
I am far more active on SO now than I used to be be when I first signed up. I think it took me 4 years to actually start participating due to unwelcoming and unfriendly design it had back then. It's a lot better than it was now though, and I have used it as a great way to improve my "skills".
Yeah I am in the same boat. They improved things quite a bit around the same time the traffic around here dropped significantly. Funny how often you and I talk over there as well. 🙂 Not too many of the good guys around there.
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October 2, 2019 at 8:09 am
Yeah I am in the same boat. They improved things quite a bit around the same time the traffic around here dropped significantly. Funny how often you and I talk over there as well. 🙂 Not too many of the good guys around there.
By "talk" do you mean citing Aaron Bertrand's "bad habit" articles? ??
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October 2, 2019 at 1:40 pm
Sean Lange wrote:Yeah I am in the same boat. They improved things quite a bit around the same time the traffic around here dropped significantly. Funny how often you and I talk over there as well. 🙂 Not too many of the good guys around there.
By "talk" do you mean citing Aaron Bertrand's "bad habit" articles? ??
LOL pretty much. It really is shocking how many people still use varchar for dates and sql injection.....
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October 2, 2019 at 2:31 pm
LOL pretty much. It really is shocking how many people still use varchar for dates and sql injection.....
Ugh... you had to bring up that memory for me! I had to work with a database just last year that used NVARCHAR(8) for date columns. They also were considering requiring putting the actual word 'NULL' in the NVARCHAR columns that didn't have a value instead of making the columns NULLABLE. We managed to talk them out of the second one but they wouldn't budge on the dates for some reason.
October 2, 2019 at 2:37 pm
Sean Lange wrote:LOL pretty much. It really is shocking how many people still use varchar for dates and sql injection.....
Ugh... you had to bring up that memory for me! I had to work with a database just last year that used NVARCHAR(8) for date columns. They also were considering requiring putting the actual word 'NULL' in the NVARCHAR columns that didn't have a value instead of making the columns NULLABLE. We managed to talk them out of the second one but they wouldn't budge on the dates for some reason.
Although I agree, not good, if it was an nvarchar(8) I at least hope they were using the format yyyyMMdd so the ordering was the same. That doesn't, however, change the fact that it's highly foolish to store something in an 18 byte datatype, when it could be stored in a 3 byte data type (date), or to store the string N'NULL' instead of the value NULL. >_<
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October 2, 2019 at 2:56 pm
I wonder if more of us ought to be using UTC or at least datetimeoffset for applications. There are more and more that are crossing time zones and it definitely causes some issues for things like DR if you haven't accounted for movement of the instance.
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