Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • Help, please

  • Lynn Pettis - Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:38 PM

    How's that?

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  • Grant Fritchey - Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:33 PM

    Lynn Pettis - Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:38 PM

    How's that?

    There is a lot to learn in Azure if one wants to that.  We'll see how things go, but at least it is a start.  Thanks.

  • :crazy:
    I had to reset my windows password today and kept having troubles.  It turns out that the 12-character password that I had entered was TOO LONG.  REALLY!?!  12 characters is too long for a password?

    Drew

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  • drew.allen - Friday, January 12, 2018 10:21 AM

    :crazy:
    I had to reset my windows password today and kept having troubles.  It turns out that the 12-character password that I had entered was TOO LONG.  REALLY!?!  12 characters is too long for a password?

    Drew

    Now that's just sad.  In today's environment, I can't believe a system would have a limit that low.  Granted, everything has some sort of limit, but 12 characters seems miserly by anyone's standards.

  • drew.allen - Friday, January 12, 2018 10:21 AM

    :crazy:
    I had to reset my windows password today and kept having troubles.  It turns out that the 12-character password that I had entered was TOO LONG.  REALLY!?!  12 characters is too long for a password?

    Drew

    LOL where I'm at, 12 characters wouldn't meet the minimum length.

  • I hate any rules on passwords. I can understand some length limit, but let's get that > 100.

    Also, don't break on $[~, etc.

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Friday, January 12, 2018 1:06 PM

    I hate any rules on passwords. I can understand some length limit, but let's get that > 100.

    Also, don't break on $[~, etc.

    I just want everyone to agree on what an appropriate security level is.  Is this the site with no password requirements?  Or is this the site that requires the password key pattern to look like a middle finger on the keyboard?

  • Ed Wagner - Friday, January 12, 2018 11:44 AM

    drew.allen - Friday, January 12, 2018 10:21 AM

    :crazy:
    I had to reset my windows password today and kept having troubles.  It turns out that the 12-character password that I had entered was TOO LONG.  REALLY!?!  12 characters is too long for a password?

    Drew

    Now that's just sad.  In today's environment, I can't believe a system would have a limit that low.  Granted, everything has some sort of limit, but 12 characters seems miserly by anyone's standards.

    I had trouble logging into a web site recently. Finally got their tech support on the phone. Evidently my 15 character password was too much. Set it 12. Nope. Capitalized letters are a problem. What? Fine, whatever. Fixed that. Nope. Special characters? No we don't support those. Fine fixed that too. And finally... Nope. You can't use the letter x either.

    12 characters or less, numbers and lower case letters only, but not the letter x.

    I would love to have a chat with their data people and their developers. What the heck is wrong with the letter x?

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  • Grant Fritchey - Friday, January 12, 2018 1:24 PM

    Ed Wagner - Friday, January 12, 2018 11:44 AM

    drew.allen - Friday, January 12, 2018 10:21 AM

    :crazy:
    I had to reset my windows password today and kept having troubles.  It turns out that the 12-character password that I had entered was TOO LONG.  REALLY!?!  12 characters is too long for a password?

    Drew

    Now that's just sad.  In today's environment, I can't believe a system would have a limit that low.  Granted, everything has some sort of limit, but 12 characters seems miserly by anyone's standards.

    I had trouble logging into a web site recently. Finally got their tech support on the phone. Evidently my 15 character password was too much. Set it 12. Nope. Capitalized letters are a problem. What? Fine, whatever. Fixed that. Nope. Special characters? No we don't support those. Fine fixed that too. And finally... Nope. You can't use the letter x either.

    12 characters or less, numbers and lower case letters only, but not the letter x.

    I would love to have a chat with their data people and their developers. What the heck is wrong with the letter x?

    Heh... they have no data people or developers.  They apparently only have "hacks". 😉

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  • Grant Fritchey - Friday, January 12, 2018 1:24 PM

    Ed Wagner - Friday, January 12, 2018 11:44 AM

    drew.allen - Friday, January 12, 2018 10:21 AM

    :crazy:
    I had to reset my windows password today and kept having troubles.  It turns out that the 12-character password that I had entered was TOO LONG.  REALLY!?!  12 characters is too long for a password?

    Drew

    Now that's just sad.  In today's environment, I can't believe a system would have a limit that low.  Granted, everything has some sort of limit, but 12 characters seems miserly by anyone's standards.

    I had trouble logging into a web site recently. Finally got their tech support on the phone. Evidently my 15 character password was too much. Set it 12. Nope. Capitalized letters are a problem. What? Fine, whatever. Fixed that. Nope. Special characters? No we don't support those. Fine fixed that too. And finally... Nope. You can't use the letter x either.

    12 characters or less, numbers and lower case letters only, but not the letter x.

    I would love to have a chat with their data people and their developers. What the heck is wrong with the letter x?

    In the old old days, pressing letter X at any time would makes the program quit, or was it letter Q?

  • Jeff Moden - Friday, January 12, 2018 3:59 PM

    Heh... they have no data people or developers.  They apparently only have "hacks". 😉

    Ha! That's good for a thumbs up vote.

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  • Grant Fritchey - Friday, January 12, 2018 1:24 PM

    Ed Wagner - Friday, January 12, 2018 11:44 AM

    drew.allen - Friday, January 12, 2018 10:21 AM

    :crazy:
    I had to reset my windows password today and kept having troubles.  It turns out that the 12-character password that I had entered was TOO LONG.  REALLY!?!  12 characters is too long for a password?

    Drew

    Now that's just sad.  In today's environment, I can't believe a system would have a limit that low.  Granted, everything has some sort of limit, but 12 characters seems miserly by anyone's standards.

    I had trouble logging into a web site recently. Finally got their tech support on the phone. Evidently my 15 character password was too much. Set it 12. Nope. Capitalized letters are a problem. What? Fine, whatever. Fixed that. Nope. Special characters? No we don't support those. Fine fixed that too. And finally... Nope. You can't use the letter x either.

    12 characters or less, numbers and lower case letters only, but not the letter x.

    I would love to have a chat with their data people and their developers. What the heck is wrong with the letter x?

    Gosh that sounds like our payroll system. It does not allow any special characters....nothing other than [a-zA-Z0-9] except it MUST contain a single $, # or !. And it must be exactly 8 characters. No more or less. The rules are so stringent it is isn't even remotely secure. WTF????

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  • Sean Lange - Monday, January 15, 2018 10:00 AM

    Gosh that sounds like our payroll system. It does not allow any special characters....nothing other than [a-zA-Z0-9] except it MUST contain a single $, # or !. And it must be exactly 8 characters. No more or less. The rules are so stringent it is isn't even remotely secure. WTF????

    Sounds like the requirements from a bank for their online site. The only difference is that it should be only numbers and exactly 8 digits. I only had an account with them because it was a company policy to receive my paycheck, but I would never get any of their products.

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  • Luis Cazares - Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:56 AM

    Sean Lange - Monday, January 15, 2018 10:00 AM

    Gosh that sounds like our payroll system. It does not allow any special characters....nothing other than [a-zA-Z0-9] except it MUST contain a single $, # or !. And it must be exactly 8 characters. No more or less. The rules are so stringent it is isn't even remotely secure. WTF????

    Sounds like the requirements from a bank for their online site. The only difference is that it should be only numbers and exactly 8 digits. I only had an account with them because it was a company policy to receive my paycheck, but I would never get any of their products.

    That's completely pathetic, especially for a bank.  The company should be able to direct deposit to any bank.  Sounds like it's time to get a new bank.

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