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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1003869 More actions · Answer 1

Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:34 AM
Jason A. Long - Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:33 AM
Jeff Moden - Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:55 AM
I want my refrigerator to do only two things... keep my stuff cold and give me access to the interior when I need it.
I want mine to make Sonic/pellet ice too... It doesn't... 🙁
I want mine to give me ice and water from the outside. That was always something I wanted as a kid.

That's definitely a bonus that's nice to have... so long as it doesn't require IOT. 😉

The big difference is that I can get into my vehicle if the battery in the FOB or the vehicle is dead.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

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Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287024 More actions · Answer 2

Jeff Moden - Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:09 PM
Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:34 AM
Jason A. Long - Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:33 AM
Jeff Moden - Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:55 AM
I want my refrigerator to do only two things... keep my stuff cold and give me access to the interior when I need it.
I want mine to make Sonic/pellet ice too... It doesn't... 🙁
I want mine to give me ice and water from the outside. That was always something I wanted as a kid.
That's definitely a bonus that's nice to have... so long as it doesn't require IOT. 😉
The big difference is that I can get into my vehicle if the battery in the FOB or the vehicle is dead.

Now why do you have to go and over-complicate everything, Jeff? 😉

Why would you want to get into your vehicle if the battery's dead? After all, you aren't going anywhere...the truck's wont' start.
You could just pay OnStar to use the IoT chip in the truck to have the hood opened for you.
The fact that the truck battery is dead voids OnStar of any responsibility according to the Terms and Conditions implied by you buying the truck in the first place.

Yes, I completely realize that this logic ignored the fact that getting into the vehicle is the way to pull the hood latch so you can replace your battery. It would still result in the MS Connect item = Closed Won't Fix. 😛

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Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183698 More actions · Answer 3

Ed Wagner - Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:24 PM
Jeff Moden - Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:09 PM
Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:34 AM
Jason A. Long - Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:33 AM
Jeff Moden - Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:55 AM
I want my refrigerator to do only two things... keep my stuff cold and give me access to the interior when I need it.
I want mine to make Sonic/pellet ice too... It doesn't... 🙁
I want mine to give me ice and water from the outside. That was always something I wanted as a kid.
That's definitely a bonus that's nice to have... so long as it doesn't require IOT. 😉
The big difference is that I can get into my vehicle if the battery in the FOB or the vehicle is dead.
Now why do you have to go and over-complicate everything, Jeff? 😉
Why would you want to get into your vehicle if the battery's dead? After all, you aren't going anywhere...the truck's wont' start.
You could just pay OnStar to use the IoT chip in the truck to have the hood opened for you.
The fact that the truck battery is dead voids OnStar of any responsibility according to the Terms and Conditions implied by you buying the truck in the first place.
Yes, I completely realize that this logic ignored the fact that getting into the vehicle is the way to pull the hood latch so you can replace your battery. It would still result in the MS Connect item = Closed Won't Fix. 😛

You also missed the part where OnStar wouldn't be able to communicate with the car if the battery is dead.

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Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287024 More actions · Answer 4

Luis Cazares - Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:46 PM
Ed Wagner - Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:24 PM
Jeff Moden - Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:09 PM
Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:34 AM
Jason A. Long - Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:33 AM
Jeff Moden - Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:55 AM
I want my refrigerator to do only two things... keep my stuff cold and give me access to the interior when I need it.
I want mine to make Sonic/pellet ice too... It doesn't... 🙁
I want mine to give me ice and water from the outside. That was always something I wanted as a kid.
That's definitely a bonus that's nice to have... so long as it doesn't require IOT. 😉
The big difference is that I can get into my vehicle if the battery in the FOB or the vehicle is dead.
Now why do you have to go and over-complicate everything, Jeff? 😉
Why would you want to get into your vehicle if the battery's dead? After all, you aren't going anywhere...the truck's wont' start.
You could just pay OnStar to use the IoT chip in the truck to have the hood opened for you.
The fact that the truck battery is dead voids OnStar of any responsibility according to the Terms and Conditions implied by you buying the truck in the first place.
Yes, I completely realize that this logic ignored the fact that getting into the vehicle is the way to pull the hood latch so you can replace your battery. It would still result in the MS Connect item = Closed Won't Fix. 😛
You also missed the part where OnStar wouldn't be able to communicate with the car if the battery is dead.

I covered that in the part about a dead battery voiding OnStar of any responsibility. After all, it's all about the Terms and Conditions.

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 734459 More actions · Answer 5

We had a battery need replacement in the Prius. Unfortunately it's in the trunk, which needs power to open. I removed the old and a kid closed the trunk. A whole procedure to get it back open.

Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286573 More actions · Answer 6

Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:36 PM
We had a battery need replacement in the Prius. Unfortunately it's in the trunk, which needs power to open. I removed the old and a kid closed the trunk. A whole procedure to get it back open.

No doubt it involved removing the engine and taking apart the chasis.

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TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 7

Eirikur Eiriksson - Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:27 AM
TomThomson - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:39 PM
Brandie Tarvin - Friday, July 7, 2017 9:03 AM
If the answer is '42', what is the question?
Putting 42 in quotes spoils option 1 below, Brandy, because it adds 2 extra characters; but the question to which 42 is the answer could be any of:
1) How many characters are there in the question "If the answer is 42, what is the question?"?
2) What do you get when you multiply six by nine? in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe (Douglas Adams)
3) how many carefully packed boxes does the Baker have in fit the first of The Hunting of the Snark (Lewis Carroll)
4) what is the rule number of "No one shall speak to the Man at the Helm" (preface to the above) (Lewis Carroll)
5,6,7,8) various questions "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" (Lewis Carroll)
9) how many US gallons in a barrel of oil?
and so on and on and on. Peter Gill's "42: Douglas Adams' Amazingly Accurate Answer to Life, the Universe and Everything" probably contains a lot of them but I think it's currently out of print, haven't been able to find a copy at a reasonable price - Amazon has second hand copies starting at about $65 + delivery and going up to about $700 for a copy not in good condition. (Of course Amazon having only 2nd hand copies at ridiculous prices doesn't always mean the book is out of print , a week ago I bought a mint copy of another book from the publisher's website while Amazon was showing only second hand copies at rip-off prices many times the cost of the book from the pulisher; but for this book on 42 the publisher went bust in November 2011).
Does 6.480740698407860230965967436088 ring a bell?
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No, all the roots used as ropes in my belfry have round sections, not square; if you use square ones you they attract the bats and one doesn't want bats in one's belfry. Besides, it's an extremely unusual tree whose roots can be used to make square section ropes.

Tom

TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 8

And in other news, a new vulnerability in IoT has been found.

http://thehackernews.com/2017/07/gsoap-iot-device-hacking.html

YIKES! Makes me glad I'm playing the luddite lately when it comes to connected items for the home.

I want my refrigerator to do only two things... keep my stuff cold and give me access to the interior when I need it. All this IOT stuff reminds me of why Adama was so strict about limiting computer controls on Battlestar Galactica. Seems far fetched until you hear stuff like what's in that article but, like you, I definitely play the part of a Luddite there. The problem is going to be when you can no longer buy things that don't have IOT capabilities. Look at what GM did a long time ago... They built in On-Star. Just because you don't have an active subscription doesn't mean that they can't use it to find you. An unconfirmed rumor says they can also pulse the vehicle to kind of safely drop the speed to zero in case someone has stolen it.

I guess I will end up fitting a Faraday cage round my fridge and putting a extremely narrow bandpass filter into its power supply (with an amusing little noise generator on the outside of that). Or maybe I can fix my present fridge if it goes bust and keep it going so that it outlasts me. The trouble is that doing that to all domestic things might be painfull.
I don't have a solution or a car - the traffic police would prbably object to secure shielding because they would claim that it could screw up their speed measurements, and although that claim would almost certainly be untrue they would probably get away with it.

Tom

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 734459 More actions · Answer 9

Sean Lange - Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:46 PM
No doubt it involved removing the engine and taking apart the chasis.

LOL, not really. Easy access on one side of the trunk. If the hatch is open.

Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 172995 More actions · Answer 10

Two things...

1) Y'all are WEIRD.

2) Thank goodness that y'all are weird. It makes me feel less awkward for being downright strange. @=)

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1003869 More actions · Answer 11

Brandie Tarvin - Friday, July 21, 2017 4:23 AM
Two things...
1) Y'all are WEIRD.
2) Thank goodness that y'all are weird. It makes me feel less awkward for being downright strange. @=)

We aim to bring aluminum foil hats back into style. 😉

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 172995 More actions · Answer 12

Huh. I don't know if this is a new bug or related to the bug others mentioned a few days back, but when I post and end up at the start of a new page or get a notification for a reply that's at the start of a new page, I do only see the one post and this in the bottom right hand corner.

Feels a little odd that it's not listing multiple pages like it usually does if the post is not the top of the page.

EDIT: Below is what I usually see. And apparently Jeff's post wasn't the start of a new page, so I don't know what happened there.

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Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 172995 More actions · Answer 13

Brandie Tarvin - Friday, July 21, 2017 6:05 AM
Huh. I don't know if this is a new bug or related to the bug others mentioned a few days back, but when I post and end up at the start of a new page or get a notification for a reply that's at the start of a new page, I do only see the one post and this in the bottom right hand corner.
Feels a little odd that it's not listing multiple pages like it usually does if the post is not the top of the page.

I got this off of Jeff's quote of my last post and then when I posted, I did only see my post and not his. So yeah, something strange going on.

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Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287024 More actions · Answer 14

Brandie Tarvin - Friday, July 21, 2017 6:06 AM
Brandie Tarvin - Friday, July 21, 2017 6:05 AM
Huh. I don't know if this is a new bug or related to the bug others mentioned a few days back, but when I post and end up at the start of a new page or get a notification for a reply that's at the start of a new page, I do only see the one post and this in the bottom right hand corner.
Feels a little odd that it's not listing multiple pages like it usually does if the post is not the top of the page.
I got this off of Jeff's quote of my last post and then when I posted, I did only see my post and not his. So yeah, something strange going on.

I saw that the other day myself. Once I navigated to another page, it seemed to function normally.

Another question is: Did you post your post twice. I see a different version of it as the last post of the previous page. If you didn't, then providing any unusual steps during your post might be a help to Steve in troubleshooting what's going on.

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Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 172995 More actions · Answer 15

Ed Wagner - Friday, July 21, 2017 6:22 AM
Another question is: Did you post your post twice. I see a different version of it as the last post of the previous page. If you didn't, then providing any unusual steps during your post might be a help to Steve in troubleshooting what's going on.

I posted two different posts about the same subject. The first post I posted did the same thing Jeff's reply did, which confused me. So I posted about that confusion only to have the website start acting normally again after I posted that.

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