Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • spaghettidba (11/17/2014)


    Steve, spam deletion in a good thing, but preventing spam is better in my opinion.

    I just registered to the site with one of my addresses and it simply asks to confirm by clicking a link.

    It's a lightweight registration process and I'm sure it allows people to register very quickly, without annoyances such as captchas but it's damn too easy to exploit.

    I hate captchas just as much as everyone else does, but they sure have a place in sorting humans from machines.

    There are less molestful solutions, such as sweetcaptcha[/url]

    That's a wonderful and simple change from regular "Captchas" but, it won't help at all here. If you look at the timing of the spam, it's probably not computer generated. There's a human behind each spam.

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  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (11/17/2014)


    After my deletion of this thread a few weeks back, I'm nervous about granting this.

    That kind of summarizes it doesn't it? If there was an Undo/Ctrl+Z/Rollback thingy there probably would be less of an hesitation;-)

    😎

  • spaghettidba (11/17/2014)


    I hate captchas just as much as everyone else does, but they sure have a place in sorting humans from machines.

    Yeah, google's image recognition (originally intended to interpret numbers for their street view) can solve captchas that humans just can't figure out.

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  • Jeff Moden (11/17/2014)


    spaghettidba (11/17/2014)


    Steve, spam deletion in a good thing, but preventing spam is better in my opinion.

    I just registered to the site with one of my addresses and it simply asks to confirm by clicking a link.

    It's a lightweight registration process and I'm sure it allows people to register very quickly, without annoyances such as captchas but it's damn too easy to exploit.

    I hate captchas just as much as everyone else does, but they sure have a place in sorting humans from machines.

    There are less molestful solutions, such as sweetcaptcha[/url]

    That's a wonderful and simple change from regular "Captchas" but, it won't help at all here. If you look at the timing of the spam, it's probably not computer generated. There's a human behind each spam.

    This makes me think of when I worked for a marketing company. They had to collect members telephone numbers from a professional association's site. The telephone numbers were available on the site as paged results (hundreds of pages) and I proposed to create a script to interpret the pages and extract the information.

    They told me that it would have worked only if it took me less than 60 minutes to code it, otherwise my hourly cost would have exceeded the 4 days estimated to do it by hand in their call center in Romania.

    I let them do it by hand.

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • GilaMonster (11/17/2014)


    spaghettidba (11/17/2014)


    I hate captchas just as much as everyone else does, but they sure have a place in sorting humans from machines.

    Yeah, google's image recognition (originally intended to interpret numbers for their street view) can solve captchas that humans just can't figure out.

    Another good reason to use less obnoxious and probably more effective captchas. πŸ™‚

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • spaghettidba (11/17/2014)


    GilaMonster (11/17/2014)


    spaghettidba (11/17/2014)


    I hate captchas just as much as everyone else does, but they sure have a place in sorting humans from machines.

    Yeah, google's image recognition (originally intended to interpret numbers for their street view) can solve captchas that humans just can't figure out.

    Another good reason to use less obnoxious and probably more effective captchas. πŸ™‚

    I've signed up to websites in the past that ask you add two single digit numbers together as part of the registration process rather than captchas. Don't know how secure that sort of thing is in comparison, but from what I understand they didn't have a lot of problems with spam.

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  • *stares at 3 pages of spammers*

    Steve... can you convince the powers that be to put up a 'board of shame' or something on these spammers? Stick in there anything you might have on them... IP addresses, emails, etc....

    Then we can just ask /b to go return the favor... or something equivalent.

    Maybe they'll get the hint after that.


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  • Evil Kraig F (11/18/2014)


    *stares at 3 pages of spammers*

    Steve... can you convince the powers that be to put up a 'board of shame' or something on these spammers? Stick in there anything you might have on them... IP addresses, emails, etc....

    Then we can just ask /b to go return the favor... or something equivalent.

    Maybe they'll get the hint after that.

    I must just have excellent timing as I usually only see 1 or 2 spam posts per page at most when I use Recent Posts -> Posts Added Today.

  • Jack Corbett (11/18/2014)


    Evil Kraig F (11/18/2014)


    *stares at 3 pages of spammers*

    Steve... can you convince the powers that be to put up a 'board of shame' or something on these spammers? Stick in there anything you might have on them... IP addresses, emails, etc....

    Then we can just ask /b to go return the favor... or something equivalent.

    Maybe they'll get the hint after that.

    I must just have excellent timing as I usually only see 1 or 2 spam posts per page at most when I use Recent Posts -> Posts Added Today.

    Me too. I usually see it on the weekends, but I rarely see page after page of spam during the week.

  • Chad Crawford (11/11/2014)


    So apparently RedGate was passing out the game of "war" at the summit? A deck of cards with different DBA characteristics on each card? I didn't make it to the summit this year, but one of our SysAdmins just stopped by and gave me the "Grant Fritchey" card and said, "This is you."

    Flattered. Wow.

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    hahahahaha! that's awesome!

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  • Well, this is shaping up to be an interesting winter here in North America...

    Not even the end of November, and already we've got here in Detroit, Michigan, about 1/2" of snow on the ground...

    Usually it's raining around now...

    Buffalo, New York has already gotten as much snow this week as they would get in a "normal" year (about 100 inches of snow) and there's more coming down...

    Time to put my sporty car in the garage and buy one of these:

    πŸ˜€

  • jasona.work (11/19/2014)


    Well, this is shaping up to be an interesting winter here in North America...

    Not even the end of November, and already we've got here in Detroit, Michigan, about 1/2" of snow on the ground...

    Usually it's raining around now...

    Buffalo, New York has already gotten as much snow this week as they would get in a "normal" year (about 100 inches of snow) and there's more coming down...

    Time to put my sporty car in the garage and buy one of these:

    πŸ˜€

    I'm all in for one of these

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  • jasona.work (11/19/2014)


    Well, this is shaping up to be an interesting winter here in North America...

    Not even the end of November, and already we've got here in Detroit, Michigan, about 1/2" of snow on the ground...

    Usually it's raining around now...

    Buffalo, New York has already gotten as much snow this week as they would get in a "normal" year (about 100 inches of snow) and there's more coming down...

    Time to put my sporty car in the garage and buy one of these:

    πŸ˜€

    Make that two. I'd be happy to test drive one for the winter. Does it come with a "support staff" to man the back? I presume that's where we deal with metro Detroit drivers? πŸ˜€

  • Ed Wagner (11/19/2014)


    jasona.work (11/19/2014)


    Well, this is shaping up to be an interesting winter here in North America...

    Not even the end of November, and already we've got here in Detroit, Michigan, about 1/2" of snow on the ground...

    Usually it's raining around now...

    Buffalo, New York has already gotten as much snow this week as they would get in a "normal" year (about 100 inches of snow) and there's more coming down...

    Time to put my sporty car in the garage and buy one of these:

    πŸ˜€

    Make that two. I'd be happy to test drive one for the winter. Does it come with a "support staff" to man the back? I presume that's where we deal with metro Detroit drivers? πŸ˜€

    Bah, I'd say let the dummies slide into the back, the worst that happens is they scrape some of the paint of the tail-gate...

    πŸ˜€

    It's especially tempting to consider one, when you can find them for under $10k, in working order, at surplus places...

  • jasona.work (11/19/2014)


    Ed Wagner (11/19/2014)


    jasona.work (11/19/2014)


    Well, this is shaping up to be an interesting winter here in North America...

    Not even the end of November, and already we've got here in Detroit, Michigan, about 1/2" of snow on the ground...

    Usually it's raining around now...

    Buffalo, New York has already gotten as much snow this week as they would get in a "normal" year (about 100 inches of snow) and there's more coming down...

    Time to put my sporty car in the garage and buy one of these:

    πŸ˜€

    Make that two. I'd be happy to test drive one for the winter. Does it come with a "support staff" to man the back? I presume that's where we deal with metro Detroit drivers? πŸ˜€

    Bah, I'd say let the dummies slide into the back, the worst that happens is they scrape some of the paint of the tail-gate...

    πŸ˜€

    It's especially tempting to consider one, when you can find them for under $10k, in working order, at surplus places...

    And then you can enjoy the 2 MPG you'll get too!

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