Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • anyone with a minor dose of manners and a sense of humor is invited.

    Please, kind Ladies and Gents, will you indulge me in a joke?

    "Knock knock..."

  • SQLkiwi (7/5/2011)


    Just so we're all clear on this, I'm interested in how you justify things like attending the summit to the person paying. I have heard of some people having 'difficult' discussions with their employer over the relative merits.

    Another justification I used was:

    me: How about giving me a raise of $10000USD :Whistling: ( pick the number you want to reflect the following :doze: )

    boss: ?????? did you lose your mind ? :pinch:

    me: well ... SQLPass is _the_ event I consider a must. you know I don't do any other sales shows, keep my budget very low and need more than the regular point and click kind of ms certified courses.

    boss: yes, I know, but how would that justify that kind of raise ? :ermm:

    me:Let's see. If I need to pay that event myself, I would need to provide the +/-5000 of my budget. With Belgian tax rates of about 52% of my income, to get to that budget, it would need me that kind of raise. Once more, getting that kind of input with the regular course, it would need way more that this. :smooooth:

    boss:hmm, "no" on the two accounts :pinch:

    me:I just wanted you to know and reflect on the subject. The services I deliver at this moment for this company is not just 9 to 5 an goes way beyond my desks perimeter.

    boss:Now, what's that supposed to mean ?? :angry:

    me:I think you get the message well enough, since this is the first time I see you in such a defensive state. I know economy isn't flourishing, I provide you the means to save 52%, keep your database clients happy and last but not least keep a motivated employee. 😎

    boss:Let me see what I can do :discuss:

    me:Thank you, sir, for givin me the chance to justify this case.:Wow:

    Guess what ... I didn't get the raise and still I'm happy :w00t:

    Johan

    Learn to play, play to learn !

    Dont drive faster than your guardian angel can fly ...
    but keeping both feet on the ground wont get you anywhere :w00t:

    - How to post Performance Problems
    - How to post data/code to get the best help[/url]

    - How to prevent a sore throat after hours of presenting ppt

    press F1 for solution, press shift+F1 for urgent solution 😀

    Need a bit of Powershell? How about this

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  • ALZDBA (7/6/2011)


    Another justification I used was:

    ...

    You must be working for a GREAT company, Johan.

    I tried to figure out how that conversation would have been here at my shop. I would expect very different answers.

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • Nice one AlzDBA. it's always about the sales messages... no matter what you want to get :hehe:.

  • Fal (7/6/2011)


    anyone with a minor dose of manners and a sense of humor is invited.

    Please, kind Ladies and Gents, will you indulge me in a joke?

    "Knock knock..."

    *takes the bait... cause it's polite... 🙂 *

    Who's there?

    -- Kit

  • Fal (7/6/2011)


    anyone with a minor dose of manners and a sense of humor is invited.

    Please, kind Ladies and Gents, will you indulge me in a joke?

    "Knock knock..."

    Come on in! Door's open!

    - Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
    Property of The Thread

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  • Branching, cause 2 bad jokes are worse than one.

    Kit G (7/6/2011)


    Fal (7/6/2011)


    anyone with a minor dose of manners and a sense of humor is invited.

    Please, kind Ladies and Gents, will you indulge me in a joke?

    "Knock knock..."

    *takes the bait... cause it's polite... 🙂 *

    Who's there?

    sp_

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • GilaMonster (7/6/2011)


    Branching, cause 2 bad jokes are worse than one.

    Kit G (7/6/2011)


    Fal (7/6/2011)


    anyone with a minor dose of manners and a sense of humor is invited.

    Please, kind Ladies and Gents, will you indulge me in a joke?

    "Knock knock..."

    *takes the bait... cause it's polite... 🙂 *

    Who's there?

    sp_

    sp_ who?

    -- Kit

  • Kit G (7/6/2011)


    GilaMonster (7/6/2011)


    Branching, cause 2 bad jokes are worse than one.

    Kit G (7/6/2011)


    Fal (7/6/2011)


    anyone with a minor dose of manners and a sense of humor is invited.

    Please, kind Ladies and Gents, will you indulge me in a joke?

    "Knock knock..."

    *takes the bait... cause it's polite... 🙂 *

    Who's there?

    sp_

    sp_ who?

    :w00t:

  • Kit G (7/6/2011)


    GilaMonster (7/6/2011)


    Branching, cause 2 bad jokes are worse than one.

    Kit G (7/6/2011)


    Fal (7/6/2011)


    anyone with a minor dose of manners and a sense of humor is invited.

    Please, kind Ladies and Gents, will you indulge me in a joke?

    "Knock knock..."

    *takes the bait... cause it's polite... 🙂 *

    Who's there?

    sp_

    sp_ who?

    sp_who2!

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • Geekfest!

  • I have thanked you many times before in these forums and it goes without saying that there were no doubts as to your deservedness but I must say it too, congrats Jeff on your MVP renewal and thanks for all you do!

    There are no special teachers of virtue, because virtue is taught by the whole community.
    --Plato

  • Gianluca Sartori (7/6/2011)


    ALZDBA (7/6/2011)


    Another justification I used was:

    ...

    You must be working for a GREAT company, Johan.

    I tried to figure out how that conversation would have been here at my shop. I would expect very different answers.

    Ninja's_RGR'us (7/6/2011)


    Nice one AlzDBA. it's always about the sales messages... no matter what you want to get :hehe:.

    Indeed.

    Know your situation, prepare the request, sell, sell, sell !

    Don't assume anyone knows what the heck your job consists of, what it should be, or how you are doing it! Prepare it all.

    Off course, the wages conversation was only a part of the whole discussion. As mentioned in one of my previous posts, the request for budget is supported by some documentation.

    This conversation isn't the only one over the year(s).

    You need to remind your chief - almost - every time you were able so solve an issue or hotfix an issue this conference, the material and the network not only saved your behind, but also may have saved others.

    Sell, Sell, Sell with a big smile and puppy eyes :w00t:

    Johan

    Learn to play, play to learn !

    Dont drive faster than your guardian angel can fly ...
    but keeping both feet on the ground wont get you anywhere :w00t:

    - How to post Performance Problems
    - How to post data/code to get the best help[/url]

    - How to prevent a sore throat after hours of presenting ppt

    press F1 for solution, press shift+F1 for urgent solution 😀

    Need a bit of Powershell? How about this

    Who am I ? Sometimes this is me but most of the time this is me

  • Kit G (7/6/2011)


    GilaMonster (7/6/2011)


    Branching, cause 2 bad jokes are worse than one.

    Kit G (7/6/2011)


    Fal (7/6/2011)


    anyone with a minor dose of manners and a sense of humor is invited.

    Please, kind Ladies and Gents, will you indulge me in a joke?

    "Knock knock..."

    *takes the bait... cause it's polite... 🙂 *

    Who's there?

    sp_

    sp_ who?

    spid 1 resource monitor

    spid 2 lock monitor

    spid 3 .......

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • GilaMonster (7/6/2011)


    Kit G (7/6/2011)


    GilaMonster (7/6/2011)


    Branching, cause 2 bad jokes are worse than one.

    Kit G (7/6/2011)


    Fal (7/6/2011)


    anyone with a minor dose of manners and a sense of humor is invited.

    Please, kind Ladies and Gents, will you indulge me in a joke?

    "Knock knock..."

    *takes the bait... cause it's polite... 🙂 *

    Who's there?

    sp_

    sp_ who?

    spid 1 resource monitor

    spid 2 lock monitor

    spid 3 .......

    Stop that spidding .... you wet my webpage :w00t:

    Johan

    Learn to play, play to learn !

    Dont drive faster than your guardian angel can fly ...
    but keeping both feet on the ground wont get you anywhere :w00t:

    - How to post Performance Problems
    - How to post data/code to get the best help[/url]

    - How to prevent a sore throat after hours of presenting ppt

    press F1 for solution, press shift+F1 for urgent solution 😀

    Need a bit of Powershell? How about this

    Who am I ? Sometimes this is me but most of the time this is me

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