Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • ZZartin - Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:51 AM

    guh....  I just had a senior DBA type person ask, after breaking a file extract in prod.

    What difference does the order of the fields make?

    :crying::crying:

    So I'm guessing that you don't build import routines which can accept any number of columns, with any datatypes, in any order? Amateur! 🙂

    If you haven't even tried to resolve your issue, please don't expect the hard-working volunteers here to waste their time providing links to answers which you could easily have found yourself.

  • Phil Parkin - Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:00 AM

    ZZartin - Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:51 AM

    guh....  I just had a senior DBA type person ask, after breaking a file extract in prod.

    What difference does the order of the fields make?

    :crying::crying:

    So I'm guessing that you don't build import routines which can accept any number of columns, with any datatypes, in any order? Amateur! 🙂

    To be honest, that's exactly what I do because most data providers are just exactly that... amateurs.  For those that have good track records for data consistency, etc, then I'll remove the overhead of doing the full blown hail mary but that's more of a rarity than I care to admit or have happen.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • p.s.  Kick the slats off that DBA.  (S)he should bloody well know better not to develop in production and that code should be thoroughly tested prior to deployment to production.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • ZZartin - Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:51 AM

    guh....  I just had a senior DBA type person ask, after breaking a file extract in prod.

    What difference does the order of the fields make?

    :crying::crying:

    <singing>As someday it may happen that a victim must be found...</singing>

    Thomas Rushton
    blog: https://thelonedba.wordpress.com

  • Jeff Moden - Thursday, October 5, 2017 2:28 PM

    To be honest, that's exactly what I do because most data providers are just exactly that... amateurs.  For those that have good track records for data consistency, etc, then I'll remove the overhead of doing the full blown hail mary but that's more of a rarity than I care to admit or have happen.

    Dun and Bradstreet comes to mind. We'd send out info for matches, and what we got back was rarely formatted the same way.
    I would have thought with the line of business they are in, they would have been better.

  • Greg Edwards-268690 - Friday, October 6, 2017 10:30 AM

    Jeff Moden - Thursday, October 5, 2017 2:28 PM

    To be honest, that's exactly what I do because most data providers are just exactly that... amateurs.  For those that have good track records for data consistency, etc, then I'll remove the overhead of doing the full blown hail mary but that's more of a rarity than I care to admit or have happen.

    Dun and Bradstreet comes to mind. We'd send out info for matches, and what we got back was rarely formatted the same way.
    I would have thought with the line of business they are in, they would have been better.

    When you get paid more for each custom file you build than for just reusing the standard extract, conformity and standardization are not your priority😛

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Your lack of planning does not constitute an emergency on my part...unless you're my manager...or a director and above...or a really loud-spoken end-user..All right - what was my emergency again?

  • Greg Edwards-268690 - Friday, October 6, 2017 10:30 AM

    Jeff Moden - Thursday, October 5, 2017 2:28 PM

    To be honest, that's exactly what I do because most data providers are just exactly that... amateurs.  For those that have good track records for data consistency, etc, then I'll remove the overhead of doing the full blown hail mary but that's more of a rarity than I care to admit or have happen.

    Dun and Bradstreet comes to mind. We'd send out info for matches, and what we got back was rarely formatted the same way.
    I would have thought with the line of business they are in, they would have been better.

    Oh, don't mention D&B.  I get flashbacks to the various times I spent working on projects there...  And I'm not surprised.

    Thomas Rushton
    blog: https://thelonedba.wordpress.com

  • So came across an article on a new programming language someone's working on.  I wonder if it'd be possible to get a "wrapper" for TSQL so we could use it for coding?
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/09/fetlang_erotic_programming_language/
    Imagine the fun of code reviews?
    :hehe:

  • jasona.work - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:11 AM

    So came across an article on a new programming language someone's working on.  I wonder if it'd be possible to get a "wrapper" for TSQL so we could use it for coding?
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/09/fetlang_erotic_programming_language/
    Imagine the fun of code reviews?
    :hehe:

    For some reason, that link isn't working. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/09/fetlang_erotic_programming_language

    And yes, it could be quite interesting (I see another quirk of SSC today is that all my text is now a hyperlink... Good!). I dred to think what an "INSERT" statement woudl be. O.o

    Thom~

    Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
    Larnu.uk

  • This was interesting. CSV Injection: http://georgemauer.net/2017/10/07/csv-injection.html

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:27 AM

    This was interesting. CSV Injection: http://georgemauer.net/2017/10/07/csv-injection.html

    So..... excel is even more terrible than we already knew?

  • Perhaps. I think Excel is great in many ways. More, I think the idea of programming as a part of basic applications is a bad idea.

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:27 AM

    This was interesting. CSV Injection: http://georgemauer.net/2017/10/07/csv-injection.html

    Wow!  Just ... WOW!  Thanks for posting that.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Jeff Moden - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 11:14 AM

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:27 AM

    This was interesting. CSV Injection: http://georgemauer.net/2017/10/07/csv-injection.html

    Wow!  Just ... WOW!  Thanks for posting that.

    I had a go at this with the calc injection. Excel did warn me, which is good, and I therefore had the option. For it not to happen. I wonder, however, what might happen in different environments. I can imagine Excel 2007 not being as clever.

    Thom~

    Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
    Larnu.uk

  • Thom A - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 11:45 AM

    Jeff Moden - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 11:14 AM

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:27 AM

    This was interesting. CSV Injection: http://georgemauer.net/2017/10/07/csv-injection.html

    Wow!  Just ... WOW!  Thanks for posting that.

    I had a go at this with the calc injection. Excel did warn me, which is good, and I therefore had the option. For it not to happen. I wonder, however, what might happen in different environments. I can imagine Excel 2007 not being as clever.

    Are people still using Office 2007?

    Luis C.
    General Disclaimer:
    Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

    How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2

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