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Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287024 More actions · Answer 1

jcrawf02 (11/26/2014)
Stuart Davies (11/26/2014)
Eirikur Eiriksson (11/26/2014)
WayneS (11/26/2014)
..what the vote count was..
If I remember correctly it was 135 after my vote
😎
Mine made it 143
it's showing 147 right now, and when I tried to vote it up to 148, the website says "Voting is no longer enabled on this item" :angry:

That's weird. I voted and it moved the count from 146 to 147 this morning about 45 minutes ago. The status is still active, so I don't know what their problem is.

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Gazareth One Orange Chip Points: 27737 More actions · Answer 2

Ed Wagner (11/26/2014)
jcrawf02 (11/26/2014)
Stuart Davies (11/26/2014)
Eirikur Eiriksson (11/26/2014)
WayneS (11/26/2014)
..what the vote count was..
If I remember correctly it was 135 after my vote
😎
Mine made it 143
it's showing 147 right now, and when I tried to vote it up to 148, the website says "Voting is no longer enabled on this item" :angry:
That's weird. I voted and it moved the count from 146 to 147 this morning about 45 minutes ago. The status is still active, so I don't know what their problem is.

I've just voted, now 150.

SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 3

Gazareth (11/26/2014)
Ed Wagner (11/26/2014)
jcrawf02 (11/26/2014)
Stuart Davies (11/26/2014)
Eirikur Eiriksson (11/26/2014)
WayneS (11/26/2014)
..what the vote count was..
If I remember correctly it was 135 after my vote
😎
Mine made it 143
it's showing 147 right now, and when I tried to vote it up to 148, the website says "Voting is no longer enabled on this item" :angry:
That's weird. I voted and it moved the count from 146 to 147 this morning about 45 minutes ago. The status is still active, so I don't know what their problem is.
I've just voted, now 150.

Yeah, connect has hiccups like that from time to time.

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1003863 More actions · Answer 4

WayneS (11/26/2014)
Jeff - do you happen to know what the vote count was before you posted your request to up-vote the connect item?

I forgot to write it down but I think it was in the 120's. Not sure.

--Jeff Moden

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Divine Flame SSCoach Points: 15943 More actions · Answer 5

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November 26, 2014 at 8:35 am

#1761117

Voted. 153 now.

Sujeet Singh

Koen Verbeeck SSC Guru Points: 259085 More actions · Answer 6

It's time to allow for moderators (privileged forum users) to be able to delete spam.

Most of the succesful forums/boards/whatever have this. Just not SQLServerCentral.

I think as long as the SQLServerCentral team can reverse actions done by the volunteer mods, what can be the issue?

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TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 7

Divine Flame (11/26/2014)
Voted. 153 now.

Now 167.

Needs quite a few more vote, I think.

Tom

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1003863 More actions · Answer 8

TomThomson (11/28/2014)
Divine Flame (11/26/2014)
Voted. 153 now.
Now 167.
Needs quite a few more vote, I think.

Agreed. I'll try to submit an "editorial" for inclusion on the front page for sometime next week. It would be really cool if we could get MS to retrofit this to 2012 and 2014. That's provided that they don't make it slower than Itzik's cascading CTEs. 🙂

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 9

Jeff Moden (11/28/2014)
It would be really cool if we could get MS to retrofit this to 2012 and 2014.

Snowball's chance in hell.

They don't back-port features, can't think of any cases where they ever have. Bug fixes, yes. Features no. That's if the connect item isn't 'closed won't fix' like most are

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1003863 More actions · Answer 10

GilaMonster (11/30/2014)
Jeff Moden (11/28/2014)
It would be really cool if we could get MS to retrofit this to 2012 and 2014.
Snowball's chance in hell.
They don't back-port features, can't think of any cases where they ever have. Bug fixes, yes. Features no. That's if the connect item isn't 'closed won't fix' like most are

Yeah... understood. If it were a bug, maybe a different story.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287024 More actions · Answer 11

Koen Verbeeck (11/27/2014)
It's time to allow for moderators (privileged forum users) to be able to delete spam.
Most of the succesful forums/boards/whatever have this. Just not SQLServerCentral.
I think as long as the SQLServerCentral team can reverse actions done by the volunteer mods, what can be the issue?

As long as the SSC administrators can see and undo what the external moderators do, I'm all in favor of it. I'm sure we all remember when The Thread was lost and then only mostly recovered. If there's a way to fully recover deleted threads, I think it's a great idea. I wouldn't mind having that ability myself, especially if I try to read the forum on the weekends.

There also has to be a good mechanism for blocking posts that doesn't drag down the site's performance. I think that poor performance is worse than lots of spam, but realize I may be in the minority there.

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 734449 More actions · Answer 12

Ed Wagner (11/30/2014)
Koen Verbeeck (11/27/2014)
It's time to allow for moderators (privileged forum users) to be able to delete spam.
Most of the succesful forums/boards/whatever have this. Just not SQLServerCentral.
I think as long as the SQLServerCentral team can reverse actions done by the volunteer mods, what can be the issue?
As long as the SSC administrators can see and undo what the external moderators do, I'm all in favor of it. I'm sure we all remember when The Thread was lost and then only mostly recovered. If there's a way to fully recover deleted threads, I think it's a great idea. I wouldn't mind having that ability myself, especially if I try to read the forum on the weekends.
There also has to be a good mechanism for blocking posts that doesn't drag down the site's performance. I think that poor performance is worse than lots of spam, but realize I may be in the minority there.

The issue is that the forum privileges don't make this easy. I can't give "hide" to someone, I can only give edit and delete. I dislike Edit, as I almost never edit anything. I'd hate to pass that judgement on to others. If delete goes, then we don't have a record. I could build a trigger, but then I'd have to build tooling to recover things as well. Don't have that time right now.

TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 13

Ed Wagner (11/30/2014)
There also has to be a good mechanism for blocking posts that doesn't drag down the site's performance. I think that poor performance is worse than lots of spam, but realize I may be in the minority there.

I think it depends on the spam volume. I haven't looked at new posts much recently - got fed up with seeing only one (or sometimes two) non-spam messages out of 117 messages shown at weekends, and not enough time during the rest of the week. I think if real messages had been visible at weekends I would have looked at them.

But this is the last of my 10 days stuck back in England, trying to catch up with things while surviving the foul climate; I'll be rejoining my wife where there's (relatively) civilised weather tomorrow and may find more free time.

Tom

Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183698 More actions · Answer 14

Steve Jones - SSC Editor (12/1/2014)
Ed Wagner (11/30/2014)
Koen Verbeeck (11/27/2014)
It's time to allow for moderators (privileged forum users) to be able to delete spam.
Most of the succesful forums/boards/whatever have this. Just not SQLServerCentral.
I think as long as the SQLServerCentral team can reverse actions done by the volunteer mods, what can be the issue?
As long as the SSC administrators can see and undo what the external moderators do, I'm all in favor of it. I'm sure we all remember when The Thread was lost and then only mostly recovered. If there's a way to fully recover deleted threads, I think it's a great idea. I wouldn't mind having that ability myself, especially if I try to read the forum on the weekends.
There also has to be a good mechanism for blocking posts that doesn't drag down the site's performance. I think that poor performance is worse than lots of spam, but realize I may be in the minority there.
The issue is that the forum privileges don't make this easy. I can't give "hide" to someone, I can only give edit and delete. I dislike Edit, as I almost never edit anything. I'd hate to pass that judgement on to others. If delete goes, then we don't have a record. I could build a trigger, but then I'd have to build tooling to recover things as well. Don't have that time right now.

How about granting a "move" permission to send the thread to a forum that doesn't get listed in the recent posts/active threads lists? I'm not sure what that implies.

Luis C.
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TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 15

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December 1, 2014 at 9:06 am

#1761765

duplicate - deleted.

Tom