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Ron McCullough SSC Guru Points: 63877 More actions · Answer 1

Jeff - you are kidding aren't you?

Alright... how'd ya do it? How'd you get that right parenthesis to hang out in mid air like that without it turning into a smiley face?

Now let me see that I have it correctly

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it needs a line of text (this line) below the parenthesis and your forum settings set to:

Home>Control Panel>Forum Setting scroll down to Show Emoticons,

and uncheck the select box.

Or at least is how it works for me

If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1003873 More actions · Answer 2

Heh... what I'd like to do is to be able to show emoticons AND leave a hanging parenthesis in the same post. None of the emoticons use just a parenthesis as their "key", but the ) shows up as a smiley face if you leave it hanging... like this...

) --This came from a hanging parenthesis

The emoticons are a bit important so folks don't think I'm slinging porkchops when I don't intend to... 😀

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TimothyAWiseman SSCrazy Eights Points: 8819 More actions · Answer 3

Jeff Moden (12/6/2008)
Actually, I'll take door #3 😛 ... performance is the same as WHERE EXISTS and it's even easier to read especially for newbies that may be on the team...

Jeff, I agree with you completely when you know that there are no nulls in the set/subquery for the in clause. It can get fairly confusing for newbies what the final results will be if there are nulls.

To quote from BOL:

Any null values returned by subquery or expression that are compared to test_expression using IN or NOT IN return UNKNOWN. Using null values in together with IN or NOT IN can produce unexpected results.

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Christopher Stobbs SSC-Insane Points: 21098 More actions · Answer 4

Thanks for the alternative Jeff 🙂

but I must say sorry I don't know how the hanging ) stayed as it did.

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Lets see what happens he he he

OK I got it.

If you have a tabs instead of spaces before the ) then it stays as it should and no smiley 🙂

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1003873 More actions · Answer 5

Heh... dammit... I hate tabs. 😛 Thanks, Christopher.

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Christopher Stobbs SSC-Insane Points: 21098 More actions · Answer 6

Really why do you hate tabs 🙁

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 734498 More actions · Answer 7

First thing I do, and used to require in dev teams, is to set tools to replace tabs with spaces. Creates all kinds of issues.

Need a KillAllTabs task in SSIS 🙂

Garadin One Orange Chip Points: 29613 More actions · Answer 8

What's the issue with tabs? I kinda hate spaces and normally replace them with tabs (for code formatting anyways). Do tabs cause some problem that I've never come across?

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Christopher Stobbs SSC-Insane Points: 21098 More actions · Answer 9

I agree

I normally always replace spaces with tabs.

I currently work with a tab the length of 4 spaces.

But work with people that insist on reformatting my code to 2 or 1 space indentation which to be honest I find very very hard to read.

a tab or 4 spaces makes every thing very clear 🙂

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 10

Steve Jones - Editor (12/12/2008)
First thing I do, and used to require in dev teams, is to set tools to replace tabs with spaces. Creates all kinds of issues.

I used to insist on all tabs with my dev teams. Was easy to spot when the didn't. I use a tab stop of 2, rather than the usual 4.

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 734498 More actions · Answer 11

Tab settings can be inconsistent, and so if you try to line things up, or open someone else's code, 2 tab stops could result in things being unreadable. Plus everyone will use spaces at times, so it really gets whacked.

If you set the tool to replace tabs with spaces, you can still use the tab key, it just inserts spaces, so things are consistently formatted on all machines, not just yours.

Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 12

Steve Jones - Editor (12/12/2008)
Tab settings can be inconsistent, and so if you try to line things up, or open someone else's code, 2 tab stops could result in things being unreadable. Plus everyone will use spaces at times, so it really gets whacked.
If you set the tool to replace tabs with spaces, you can still use the tab key, it just inserts spaces, so things are consistently formatted on all machines, not just yours.

I have to agree. I have SSMS and UltraEdit set to replace tabs with spaces and I have tab stops set to 4 spaces. It keeps things readable, and it looks the same regardless who loads it. I have seen people that have used tab stops of 5,6, or 8. The code gets funky when loaded with different settings. We need to encourage consistancy between team members. Standards are great everyone has one and they are all different!

Garadin One Orange Chip Points: 29613 More actions · Answer 13

Lynn Pettis (12/12/2008)
Steve Jones - Editor (12/12/2008)
Tab settings can be inconsistent, and so if you try to line things up, or open someone else's code, 2 tab stops could result in things being unreadable. Plus everyone will use spaces at times, so it really gets whacked.
If you set the tool to replace tabs with spaces, you can still use the tab key, it just inserts spaces, so things are consistently formatted on all machines, not just yours.
I have to agree. I have SSMS and UltraEdit set to replace tabs with spaces and I have tab stops set to 4 spaces. It keeps things readable, and it looks the same regardless who loads it. I have seen people that have used tab stops of 5,6, or 8. The code gets funky when loaded with different settings. We need to encourage consistancy between team members. Standards are great everyone has one and they are all different!

Roger that. Just made the change. Mine was set to 8. It always kinda bugged me that it was so big, but never really bugged me enough to change it. Now set to 4, with save tabs as spaces. Still not sure about this whole terminating semi-colon deal though.

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Jack Corbett SSC Guru Points: 184393 More actions · Answer 14

I like tabs and I use 6 and I like to set it to 6 even if I change set it to use spaces. One of those personal things.

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Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 15

Jack Corbett (12/12/2008)
I like tabs and I use 6 and I like to set it to 6 even if I change set it to use spaces. One of those personal things.

I like four spaces, personal thing as well, as it helps keep the code from scrolling off the side of the screen. I don't mind scrolling up and down, but really hate it when I have to scroll up and down and left to right to see the code.