Microsoft Exercise

  • Jeff Moden

    SSC Guru

    Points: 994861

    If it weren't so true, it actually would be funny. "Upgrade Tuesdays" seems to occur on the 1st Tuesday of each month. That Thursday after, the folks in NetOps are required to do OS/Windows Upgrades to all the Dev boxes, the Staging boxes the Thursday after that, and then the Prod boxes the week after that but on the bloody weekend. I'm lucky that I don't have to be around for any of that but I sure do feel sorry for the folks in NetOps. It's a company policy that I dug in on and said NFW to (and have been able to enforce it) when it comes to CUs and SPs on SQL Server. I'll evaluate the CUs if there's something critical that we need and normally limit it to just a hotfix if one is available. Even then, they don't hit production until they've run the gauntlet of testing in the Dev and Staging environments.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column.
    "If you think its expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur."--Red Adair
    "Change is inevitable... change for the better is not."
    When you put the right degree of spin on it, the number 3|8 is also a glyph that describes the nature of a DBAs job. 😉

    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor

    SSC Guru

    Points: 716250

    Comments posted to this topic are about the item Microsoft Exercise

  • Gary Varga

    SSC Guru

    Points: 82166

    I still get caught between "upgrades are the result/cause of of evil lock ins" and "upgrades is all fixes and features goodness". I think that we all know that there are both elements of commercialism and technical offerings. (Of course, I have known to be wrong.)

    Gaz

    -- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!

  • Xavon

    SSCrazy

    Points: 2280

    Upgrade Treadmill, or Upgrade Hamster Wheel?

    It could be worse. Despite being a software developer with a side of DBA, my company does not let me control when upgrades get applied. At some point two to three days after IT decides the upgrades are safe, they blast them out to the whole company, usually w/o warning. And if the update requires a reboot, and we did not shut everything down (or worse, have some long runner processing overnight), too bad. We come back in the morning to a fresh desktop and prayers to auto-recovery.

  • Eric M Russell

    SSC Guru

    Points: 125026

    I've heard that public shaming works.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • akljfhnlaflkj

    SSC Guru

    Points: 76202

    We're still on 2008 R2. I wonder when MS will drop support.

  • Eric M Russell

    SSC Guru

    Points: 125026

    Iwas Bornready (4/27/2015)


    We're still on 2008 R2. I wonder when MS will drop support.

    I've been told by exectutive management that we'll remain on 2008 R2 until Microsoft drops support... so personally I'm hoping Microsoft will drop support soon. 🙂

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • PHYData DBA

    SSCertifiable

    Points: 7541

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (4/26/2015)


    Comments posted to this topic are about the item <A HREF="/articles/Editorial/61229/">Microsoft Exercise</A>

    Not only does is this bad for society in general, but it also affects your health.

    !?!?!?! Steve... You're better than that...

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor

    SSC Guru

    Points: 716250

    PHYData DBA (4/27/2015)


    Not only does is this bad for society in general, but it also affects your health.

    !?!?!?! Steve... You're better than that...

    Just a joke on the exercise for better health thing

  • PHYData DBA

    SSCertifiable

    Points: 7541

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (4/27/2015)


    PHYData DBA (4/27/2015)


    Not only does is this bad for society in general, but it also affects your health.

    !?!?!?! Steve... You're better than that...

    Just a joke on the exercise for better health thing

    Extra and needless word "does" in that sentence is a joke about exercise? :crazy:

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor

    SSC Guru

    Points: 716250

    Ah, sorry. Missed that multiple times.

    Fixed

  • PHYData DBA

    SSCertifiable

    Points: 7541

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (4/27/2015)


    Ah, sorry. Missed that multiple times.

    Fixed

    Felt weird pointing that out, but I know you wanted to see it.

    The article itself is very good at covering something everyone working with SQL understands way too well.

    This was a very funny Joke 10 years ago when it started happening.

    Now it just brings to the minds eye a piled mountain of bodies.

    All of them TORT cases twisted in pain, piled around the M$ Upgrade Treadmill.

    If you look closely the resistance chart scrolls by in a blur of peeks and rises constantly moving uphill. :sick:

  • Eric M Russell

    SSC Guru

    Points: 125026

    I wish Microsoft would drop support for v2008R2 this year; I'd love to upgarde to v2014.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • PHYData DBA

    SSCertifiable

    Points: 7541

    Eric M Russell (4/27/2015)


    I wish Microsoft would drop support for v2008R2 this year; I'd love to upgarde to v2014.

    We would be running anything after 2008R2 if any of our vendors had tested their product on it yet...

    Can not say who those vendors are, but the industry is Healthcare.

  • Eric M Russell

    SSC Guru

    Points: 125026

    PHYData DBA (4/27/2015)


    Eric M Russell (4/27/2015)


    I wish Microsoft would drop support for v2008R2 this year; I'd love to upgarde to v2014.

    We would be running anything after 2008R2 if any of our vendors had tested their product on it yet...

    Can not say who those vendors are, but the industry is Healthcare.

    That actually explains a lot.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

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