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  • So now that the HoF ballot is out for 2019...

    Who would be the ten players you'd put on your ballot?

    Off the top of my head, I'd vote for:

    • Mariano Rivera
    • Edgar Martinez (how is he not already in?!?)
    • Mike Mussina
    • Roger Clemens
    • Barry Bonds
    • Manny Ramirez

    I'd need to think about the other four.

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    • Barry Bonds

    • Roger Clemens

    • Todd Helton

    • Mike Mussina

    • Andy Pettitte

    • Manny Ramírez

    • Mariano Rivera

    • Curt Schilling

    • Gary Sheffield

    • Sammy Sosa

  • In case you were wondering about how much longer until opening day...

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  • So the BBWAA announces the Class of 2019 today!  Who's getting into Cooperstown?  It looks like Mariano Rivera and Roy Halladay are shoo-ins.  It also appears that Edgar Martinez will get in this year as well.  (IMHO Edgar should've gotten in a long time ago, but better late than never!)

    Anyone else?  Indications are Mike Mussina is borderline (but not impossible) this year.

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  • Congrats, Mariano Rivera, Roy Halliday, Edgar Martinez, and Mike Mussina!

    Four very worthy inductees!  Welcome to Cooperstown, gentlemen!

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  • Good class. Still interesting to see this analysis: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mariano-riveras-unanimous-induction-shows-an-evolving-cooperstown/

    I am hoping the hall is evolving. No reason to not have some unanimous ballots before now. Those writers should have lost their voting rights years ago. I do think it's interesting Schilling isn't higher. With his walk totals some years, and postseason performances, I think he ought to be in there. Really, at this point, I'd put in Bonds and Clemens, but I get people not wanting that.

    Walker, Vizquel, McGriff, not sure I'd put them in.

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:20 AM

    Good class. Still interesting to see this analysis: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mariano-riveras-unanimous-induction-shows-an-evolving-cooperstown/

    I am hoping the hall is evolving. No reason to not have some unanimous ballots before now. Those writers should have lost their voting rights years ago. I do think it's interesting Schilling isn't higher. With his walk totals some years, and postseason performances, I think he ought to be in there. Really, at this point, I'd put in Bonds and Clemens, but I get people not wanting that.

    Walker, Vizquel, McGriff, not sure I'd put them in.

    I'm guessing that Jeter, when he's eligible next year, might make a run at a second-straight unanimous election.  We'll see!

    Not sure how I feel about Schilling.  He's said some things that have turned me off (and maybe some voters as well), but that shouldn't disqualify him from election to Cooperstown.  I can go either way on Bonds and Clemens; I definitely understand both sides of the coin.  For me, the jury's out on Walker, Vizquel, and McGriff; they were all very good players, but are they Hall-worthy?  I'd need to take another look at them.  But, I'm not a Hall-voter, so what do I know? 🙂

    BTW, this year's Cooperstown induction takes place on Sunday, July 21.  It's only a little more than an hour away from Albany -- where we're hosting SQL Saturday #855 the day before!  Come to SQL Saturday, then go to the induction ceremony the next day! 🙂  </ShamelessPlug>

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  • I came across this article on ESPN, and thought it was an interesting read: How much has baseball really changed over the years?

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  • You get $33

    Starter:
    $5 - Greg Maddux
    $4 - Randy Johnson
    $3 - Roger Clemens
    $2 - Pedro Martinez
    $1 - Claton Kershaw

    Closer:
    $5 - Mariano Rivera
    $4 - Trevor Hoffman
    $3 - Billy Wagner
    $2 - Kenley Jansen
    $1 - Craig Kimbrel

    Catcher:
    $5 - Pudge Rodriguez
    $4 - Mike Piazza
    $3 - Buster Posey
    $2 - Joe Mauer
    $1 - Jorge Posada

    First Base
    $5 - Albert Pujols
    $4 - Miguel Cabrera
    $3 - Jeff Bagwell
    $2-  Jim Thome
    $1 - Mark McGwire

    Second Base
    $5 - Roberto Alomar
    $4 - Craig Biggio
    $3 - Chase Utley
    $2- Robinson Cano
    $1 - Jeff Kent

    Third Base
    $5 - Chipper Jones
    $4 - Adrian Beltre
    $3 - Wade Boggs
    $2- Nolan Arenado
    $1 - Scott Rolen

    Shortstop
    $5 - Alex Rodriguez
    $4 - Cal Ripken Jr
    $3 - Derek Jeter
    $2- Barry Larkin
    $1 - Ozzie Smith

    LF
    $5 - Barry Bonds
    $4 - Rickey Henderson
    $3 - Manny Ramirez
    $2- Lance Berkman
    $1 - Albert Belle

    CF
    $5 - Mike Trout
    $4 - Ken Griffey Jr
    $3 - Carlos Beltran
    $2- Andruw Jones
    $1 - Jim Edmonds

    RF
    $5 - Ichiro Suzuki
    $4 - Vlad Guerrer
    $3 - Mookie Betts
    $2-  Larry Walked
    $1 - Gary Sheffield

    DH
    $5 - David Ortiz
    $4 -Frank Thomas
    $3 - Edgar Martinez
    $2-  Paul Molitor
    $1 - Harold Baines

    Have Fun

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Friday, February 1, 2019 8:11 AM

    You get $33

    Starter:
    $5 - Greg Maddux
    $4 - Randy Johnson
    $3 - Roger Clemens
    $2 - Pedro Martinez
    $1 - Claton Kershaw

    Closer:
    $5 - Mariano Rivera
    $4 - Trevor Hoffman
    $3 - Billy Wagner
    $2 - Kenley Jansen
    $1 - Craig Kimbrel

    Catcher:
    $5 - Pudge Rodriguez
    $4 - Mike Piazza
    $3 - Buster Posey
    $2 - Joe Mauer
    $1 - Jorge Posada

    First Base
    $5 - Albert Pujols
    $4 - Miguel Cabrera
    $3 - Jeff Bagwell
    $2-  Jim Thome
    $1 - Mark McGwire

    Second Base
    $5 - Roberto Alomar
    $4 - Craig Biggio
    $3 - Chase Utley
    $2- Robinson Cano
    $1 - Jeff Kent

    Third Base
    $5 - Chipper Jones
    $4 - Adrian Beltre
    $3 - Wade Boggs
    $2- Nolan Arenado
    $1 - Scott Rolen

    Shortstop
    $5 - Alex Rodriguez
    $4 - Cal Ripken Jr
    $3 - Derek Jeter
    $2- Barry Larkin
    $1 - Ozzie Smith

    LF
    $5 - Barry Bonds
    $4 - Rickey Henderson
    $3 - Manny Ramirez
    $2- Lance Berkman
    $1 - Albert Belle

    CF
    $5 - Mike Trout
    $4 - Ken Griffey Jr
    $3 - Carlos Beltran
    $2- Andruw Jones
    $1 - Jim Edmonds

    RF
    $5 - Ichiro Suzuki
    $4 - Vlad Guerrer
    $3 - Mookie Betts
    $2-  Larry Walked
    $1 - Gary Sheffield

    DH
    $5 - David Ortiz
    $4 -Frank Thomas
    $3 - Edgar Martinez
    $2-  Paul Molitor
    $1 - Harold Baines

    Have Fun

    Even if you just picked all the $1 guys, that would still make up a pretty good team!

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  • You don't get points for saving money

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:20 AM

    Good class. Still interesting to see this analysis: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mariano-riveras-unanimous-induction-shows-an-evolving-cooperstown/

    I am hoping the hall is evolving. No reason to not have some unanimous ballots before now. Those writers should have lost their voting rights years ago. I do think it's interesting Schilling isn't higher. With his walk totals some years, and postseason performances, I think he ought to be in there. Really, at this point, I'd put in Bonds and Clemens, but I get people not wanting that.

    Walker, Vizquel, McGriff, not sure I'd put them in.

    When they waived the 5 year wait for Roberto Clemente, I always wondered why this was not a unanimous vote.  Who would have voted against him, and why???

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  • Michael L John - Friday, February 1, 2019 8:46 AM

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:20 AM

    Good class. Still interesting to see this analysis: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mariano-riveras-unanimous-induction-shows-an-evolving-cooperstown/

    I am hoping the hall is evolving. No reason to not have some unanimous ballots before now. Those writers should have lost their voting rights years ago. I do think it's interesting Schilling isn't higher. With his walk totals some years, and postseason performances, I think he ought to be in there. Really, at this point, I'd put in Bonds and Clemens, but I get people not wanting that.

    Walker, Vizquel, McGriff, not sure I'd put them in.

    When they waived the 5 year wait for Roberto Clemente, I always wondered why this was not a unanimous vote.  Who would have voted against him, and why???

    I never even thought about that.  Good question.

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  • Ray K - Friday, February 1, 2019 8:52 AM

    Michael L John - Friday, February 1, 2019 8:46 AM

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:20 AM

    Good class. Still interesting to see this analysis: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mariano-riveras-unanimous-induction-shows-an-evolving-cooperstown/

    I am hoping the hall is evolving. No reason to not have some unanimous ballots before now. Those writers should have lost their voting rights years ago. I do think it's interesting Schilling isn't higher. With his walk totals some years, and postseason performances, I think he ought to be in there. Really, at this point, I'd put in Bonds and Clemens, but I get people not wanting that.

    Walker, Vizquel, McGriff, not sure I'd put them in.

    When they waived the 5 year wait for Roberto Clemente, I always wondered why this was not a unanimous vote.  Who would have voted against him, and why???

    I never even thought about that.  Good question.

    You can extend that to a lot of inductees.  Like how was the original class of inductees not unanimous?  Cy Young only received 76% of the vote!

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  • Congrats, Pats, yada, yada, yada.

    Pitchers and catchers report next week!

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