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  • rfr.ferrari

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    Koen Verbeeck (11/6/2011)


    TCP/IP needs a network adaptor. Isn't that hardware as well? 😛

    in QotD, "specific hardware" isn't any network card hardware!!!

    In what respect are you claiming that this is less specific than VIA hardware? It's any VIA hardware just as it's any Ethernet adaptor - it certainly isn't "any network card" because you would have one hell of a time trying to run IP over an asynchronous connection on a telephone line (unless you put some sot of virtual interface adaptor software beneath IP - that of course is quite common), or over a non-transparent basic mode synchronous connection, or over a synchronous modem connection that doesn't provide any form of framing, or over a 5-bit telex adaptor, or over a SCSI card.

    I said that VIA need of a specific hardware to use, like NUMA hardware, isn't any adapter ethernet controller.


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  • Ken Wymore

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    Nice Monday question. Never looked into VIA before so I figured that was the answer.

  • Michael Poppers

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    KWymore (11/7/2011)


    Nice Monday question. Never looked into VIA before so I figured that was the answer.

    Answering this QotD was also a "process of elimination" for me -- I knew that the other three choices didn't require specific hardware :-P.

  • Koen Verbeeck

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    L' Eomot Inversé (11/7/2011)


    Koen Verbeeck (11/6/2011)


    TCP/IP needs a network adaptor. Isn't that hardware as well? 😛

    It was last time I looked.

    But how about local loopback connections (TCIP to 127.0.0.1:1443)? They used to require an adapter (although whether they actually used it depended on whether the platform software provided software loopback or required an adaptor that would perform loopback) but I'm not sure they do today.

    Well, yesterday evening I gave a workshop on SharePoint BI. I didn't have an internet connection (my company has quite a strict WiFi and I can't access it from a virtual machine), and the cabled internet connection plug was too far away. But that shouldn't matter, as everything was on my local machine (SharePoint Server, SSIS, SSAS, SSRS and SQL Server itself). But still, Excel didn't want to publish anything to SharePoint because "there wasn't an internet connection". Luckily, one of the attendees shared his WiFi through his smartphone with me, so I could publish. To localhost. 🙂

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  • Britt Cluff

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    Good straightforward question. Thanks.

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  • TomThomson

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    Koen Verbeeck (11/7/2011)


    L' Eomot Inversé (11/7/2011)


    Koen Verbeeck (11/6/2011)


    TCP/IP needs a network adaptor. Isn't that hardware as well? 😛

    It was last time I looked.

    But how about local loopback connections (TCIP to 127.0.0.1:1443)? They used to require an adapter (although whether they actually used it depended on whether the platform software provided software loopback or required an adaptor that would perform loopback) but I'm not sure they do today.

    Well, yesterday evening I gave a workshop on SharePoint BI. I didn't have an internet connection (my company has quite a strict WiFi and I can't access it from a virtual machine), and the cabled internet connection plug was too far away. But that shouldn't matter, as everything was on my local machine (SharePoint Server, SSIS, SSAS, SSRS and SQL Server itself). But still, Excel didn't want to publish anything to SharePoint because "there wasn't an internet connection". Luckily, one of the attendees shared his WiFi through his smartphone with me, so I could publish. To localhost. 🙂

    So it looks like the platform doesn't provide TCP/IP unless you have specific hardware - and the distinction being made in the question is thoroughly artificial.

    Tom

  • TomThomson

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    rfr.ferrari (11/7/2011)


    I said that VIA need of a specific hardware to use, like NUMA hardware, isn't any adapter ethernet controller.

    And I'll still say that TCP/IP needing specific hardware to use is no different from VIA needing specific hardware to use. Sure, the hardware that TCP/IP needs is (or at least used to be) more common than VIA hardware, but typically TCP/IP can't be used without specific hardware.

    Tom

  • rfr.ferrari

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    I agree with you, Tom!!!!


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