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  • I am DBA with two year of experience on SQL server 2008 R2,

    i have some questions that should i stick to this field or switch to BI as a SQL Developer

    learning SSIS . So friends please give suggestions 🙂

  • Simple, follow your passion... and the money. Do what you love AND will get paid for.

    ----------------------------------------------------The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood... Theodore RooseveltThe Scary DBAAuthor of: SQL Server 2017 Query Performance Tuning, 5th Edition and SQL Server Execution Plans, 3rd EditionProduct Evangelist for Red Gate Software

  • jeetsingh.cs (8/30/2013)


    i have some questions that should i stick to this field or switch to BI as a SQL Developer

    learning SSIS .

    Which do you enjoy more?

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • jeetsingh.cs (8/30/2013)


    I am DBA with two year of experience on SQL server 2008 R2,

    i have some questions that should i stick to this field or switch to BI as a SQL Developer

    learning SSIS . So friends please give suggestions 🙂

    As the others have stated, do which you like the best. As an option, there's nothing wrong with doing both. 😉

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.
    "Change is inevitable... change for the better is not".

    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)
    Intro to Tally Tables and Functions

  • thanks for the replies

    i want to earn a lot of money and i enjoy new tasks and just want grow my learning

    i like writing sql queries and all the stuff that challenges mind

  • can i go doing both and

    should i go for certification

  • jeetsingh.cs (8/30/2013)


    can i go doing both and

    should i go for certification

    Certifications is a whole different discussion.

    You're early enough in your career that it might help some. Maybe.

    I'm honestly the wrong person to talk to. I don't trust most certifications.

    ----------------------------------------------------The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood... Theodore RooseveltThe Scary DBAAuthor of: SQL Server 2017 Query Performance Tuning, 5th Edition and SQL Server Execution Plans, 3rd EditionProduct Evangelist for Red Gate Software

  • Certification will definitely get you more money but beware that expectations will also be high on job from a certified professional. If you don't cope up with those, you are gone. So no rush for certification. Stick to DBA. Enhance your skillsets.You will never die hungry. I'll suggest you to get specialized in DBA area because here you will not have fear of getting outdated. Basics always remain same.

  • Snigdha Vartak (8/30/2013)


    Certification will definitely get you more money

    Not necessarily.

    As of last night, there are now 0 certifications that one can take that I will immediately respect. MCITP/MCTS/MCSA/MCSE tell me that either a person is interested in learning more, that they were required by their company to take the exams and did the absolute bare minimum memorisation or that they're a cheat, which it is I have to find in the interview.

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • GilaMonster (8/31/2013)


    Snigdha Vartak (8/30/2013)


    Certification will definitely get you more money

    Not necessarily.

    As of last night, there are now 0 certifications that one can take that I will immediately respect. MCITP/MCTS/MCSA/MCSE tell me that either a person is interested in learning more, that they were required by their company to take the exams and did the absolute bare minimum memorisation or that they're a cheat, which it is I have to find in the interview.

    Exactly so. All an MS Certification (other than MCS or MCM, which no longer exist) tells me is that the person has, for some reason, taken the exam and is capable of retaining some stuff in memory for at least a few weeks. Whether they have actually learnt how to do anything useful, rather than just parrot some information , whether they will retain any of the information you learnt for long enough for it to be useful to me or forget it all within a fortnight of taking the exam, and whether they understood what the stuff they learnt means or just parroted it in the exam with no real understanding, is not something that the certification gives any indication of. It's even less reliable than a bachelor's degree from most universities in that respect (and that's a very high degree of unreliability).

    From people looking for a first technical post what I want to see is evidence of ability and willingness to learn; currently available levels of MS certification provides evidence of willingness to undertake a crammer course and pass an exam while the cramming is fresh, not of real learning ability, and someone with MCM (especially with MCA as well) is not going to be looking for an entry level post. For more senior people, I'm looking for track record - verifiable track record, preferably vouched for by people I know I can trust, but regard having recently been certified MCM as pretty solid evidence of competence and pretty deep understanding of the MS technology concerned and MCA as strengthening that evidence. The lower level qualifications are irrelevant. So it's a pity that the useful certs have been dropped.

    Tom

  • jeetsingh.cs (8/30/2013)


    thanks for the replies

    i want to earn a lot of money and i enjoy new tasks and just want grow my learning

    i like writing sql queries and all the stuff that challenges mind

    Focus on what you really want to do for (at least) 8 hours a day. The money will follow.

    Need an answer? No, you need a question
    My blog at https://sqlkover.com.
    MCSE Business Intelligence - Microsoft Data Platform MVP

  • GilaMonster (8/31/2013)


    Snigdha Vartak (8/30/2013)


    Certification will definitely get you more money

    Not necessarily.

    As of last night, there are now 0 certifications that one can take that I will immediately respect. MCITP/MCTS/MCSA/MCSE tell me that either a person is interested in learning more, that they were required by their company to take the exams and did the absolute bare minimum memorisation or that they're a cheat, which it is I have to find in the interview.

    The thing I like about certification is that it forces you to read up on parts of the product stack you normally don't use in your daily routines.

    (I guess that falls in the "interested in learning more" category)

    Need an answer? No, you need a question
    My blog at https://sqlkover.com.
    MCSE Business Intelligence - Microsoft Data Platform MVP

  • I think people spend way more time than they should denegrating Certifications.

    Regardless of whatever qualifications you have, degree, ms certs, including mcm's / mca's (no disrespect to them), once you stop in that journey of life long learning your abilities will, over time, degrade.

    A Certification or any other type of education for that matter, should never really be seen as an end in itself.

    My point? Don't be put off Certifications, you just need to put what they mean into some kind of context.

    They are nothing more than another step you've taken towards learning and mastering your craft.

    Ultimately, the experience you gain over time will be more valuable than any certification or further education you might undertake.

    Go with what you love and have a passion for, the rest normally follows.

  • OTF (9/2/2013)


    I think people spend way more time than they should denegrating Certifications.

    I have to disagree in this area. I've had to work with a fairly large number of people that had MS Certs (not including MCM) that couldn't do a bloody thing right in SQL Server simply because they used dumps to game the system. Additionally, according to the questions I've seen from many folks "at university", many have passed by getting other to do their work for them. Someone with an exam dump and a good memory can pass the tests and be virtually useless in any practical sense.

    It's not that certification program is bad... it's the related testing program that's bad. The cert materials are a good guideline what to study. None-the-less, because of the poor testing methods and the number of people that have gamed the system, I don't trust the lower level certs and will ignore any alphabet soup after person's name. Unless I happen to know the individual and their demonstrated skill set, everyone goes through the same interview, cert or not.

    Regardless of whatever qualifications you have, degree, ms certs, including mcm's / mca's (no disrespect to them), once you stop in that journey of life long learning your abilities will, over time, degrade.

    A Certification or any other type of education for that matter, should never really be seen as an end in itself.

    My point? Don't be put off Certifications, you just need to put what they mean into some kind of context.

    They are nothing more than another step you've taken towards learning and mastering your craft.

    Ultimately, the experience you gain over time will be more valuable than any certification or further education you might undertake.

    Go with what you love and have a passion for, the rest normally follows.

    Now THAT I agree with!

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.
    "Change is inevitable... change for the better is not".

    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)
    Intro to Tally Tables and Functions

  • As of last night, there are now 0 certifications that one can take that I will immediately respect. MCITP/MCTS/MCSA/MCSE tell me that either a person is interested in learning more, that they were required by their company to take the exams and did the absolute bare minimum memorisation or that they're a cheat, which it is I have to find in the interview.

    Thanks for formulating this one.. couldn't phrase it better

    Not a famous but a true statement.

    [http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/andreaswolter/2013/08/microsoft-certified-master-programm-beendet]

    PS: I allowed myself to quote you in my blog, Gail. Hope that's ok.

    (now no need to fly to London for the exam..)

    Cheers

    Andreas

    ---------------------------------------------------
    MVP SQL Server
    Microsoft Certified Master SQL Server 2008
    Microsoft Certified Solutions Master Data Platform, SQL Server 2012
    www.insidesql.org/blogs/andreaswolter
    www.andreas-wolter.com

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