Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • Thom A - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:25 AM

    jasona.work - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:15 AM

    So, just curious what others think of something.

    Yesterday I replied (with incorrect information) to a topic (Here) and when it was pointed out I was wrong (and I double checked myself,) I edited my post to indicate it was wrong.
    The other option I considered was to remove what I posted (replacing with [deleted]) and a new post in reply to Eric indicating that I was wrong and had removed the incorrect information.

    Myself?  I prefer what I did, as it allows people to follow the topic.  Now, if the topic had gone on for a couple more replies before it was pointed out I was wrong, I might've done things a bit differently, maybe a link down to Erics' post plus a reply to his post.

    Thoughts, comments, should I duck a flying pork chop?

    I think what you've done is fine. In fact, it may well add to the topic more; if others had the same understanding as you they will now see the clarification more readily.

    It's something that sometimes bugs me about comments on SO; when someone gets something wrong  you only end up with one side of the conversation (as the party who was wrong has deleted their comments). This means the other half lose meaning, or possibly even context entirely. I realise that Eric has quoted you, and you can't do that on SO, but it's still better for the conversation flow. SSC is a message board after all. 🙂

    Unless it's really non-sense unrelated to the thread (maybe from a misunderstanding or typing on the wrong window) I prefer the strike through over the deletion. It keeps a history on what has been suggested and proven wrong or simply shown as bad advice.

    Luis C.
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  • jasona.work - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:15 AM

    So, just curious what others think of something.

    Yesterday I replied (with incorrect information) to a topic (Here) and when it was pointed out I was wrong (and I double checked myself,) I edited my post to indicate it was wrong.
    The other option I considered was to remove what I posted (replacing with [deleted]) and a new post in reply to Eric indicating that I was wrong and had removed the incorrect information.

    Myself?  I prefer what I did, as it allows people to follow the topic.  Now, if the topic had gone on for a couple more replies before it was pointed out I was wrong, I might've done things a bit differently, maybe a link down to Erics' post plus a reply to his post.

    Thoughts, comments, should I duck a flying pork chop?

     I prefer you edit. If you don't mind, add an "Edited to remove some info " or incorrect info if you want.

  • Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

  • Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:08 PM

    Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

    Please, don't feed the troll.
    He will come with some lame excuse and call his 99 years of experience solving problems with databases in ancient Egypt and calling some standard protected by the CIA.

    Luis C.
    General Disclaimer:
    Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

    How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2
  • Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:08 PM

    Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

    Based on my experience with Joe back in the time when Usenet was still a thing, he will respond to other people in the thread and ignore your post. Or he will respond to something in your post but not mention the part where he was wrong at all.

    I battled that man more often than I care to remember . I never got him to admit he was wrong. I did get him to not respond to me (while responding to every other person in the thread) multiple times.


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  • Luis Cazares - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:21 PM

    Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:08 PM

    Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

    Please, don't feed the troll.
    He will come with some lame excuse and call his 99 years of experience solving problems with databases in ancient Egypt and calling some standard protected by the CIA.

    The Culinary Institute of America. I had no idea Joe was in cahoots with them too. 😀

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  • Hugo Kornelis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:23 PM

    Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:08 PM

    Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

    Based on my experience with Joe back in the time when Usenet was still a thing, he will respond to other people in the thread and ignore your post. Or he will respond to something in your post but not mention the part where he was wrong at all.

    I battled that man more often than I care to remember . I never got him to admit he was wrong. I did get him to not respond to me (while responding to every other person in the thread) multiple times.

    Admitting when you are wrong is a good thing.
    Shows your brain still works at some level and you have the ability to learn.
    Something most people get at an early age.
    I guess some never want to grow up.

  • Greg Edwards-268690 - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:49 PM

    Hugo Kornelis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:23 PM

    Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:08 PM

    Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

    Based on my experience with Joe back in the time when Usenet was still a thing, he will respond to other people in the thread and ignore your post. Or he will respond to something in your post but not mention the part where he was wrong at all.

    I battled that man more often than I care to remember . I never got him to admit he was wrong. I did get him to not respond to me (while responding to every other person in the thread) multiple times.

    Admitting when you are wrong is a good thing.
    Shows your brain still works at some level and you have the ability to learn.
    Something most people get at an early age.
    I guess some never want to grow up.

    Learned years ago to admit when you are wrong as well as to admit when you don't know something.
    In the later, then go and learn it.  In the former learn from the mistake.

  • Luis Cazares - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:21 PM

    Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:08 PM

    Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

    Please, don't feed the troll.
    He will come with some lame excuse and call his 99 years of experience solving problems with databases in ancient Egypt and calling some standard protected by the CIA.

    I didn't know that Cello was fluent on hieroglyphics.

    Thom~

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  • Thom A - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:34 PM

    Luis Cazares - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:21 PM

    Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:08 PM

    Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

    Please, don't feed the troll.
    He will come with some lame excuse and call his 99 years of experience solving problems with databases in ancient Egypt and calling some standard protected by the CIA.

    I didn't know that Cello was fluent on hieroglyphics.

    That was where he learned his example of using a hammer to drive a screw that he likes to use. He used a 24# pound rock when carving the ankh.

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  • Thom A - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:34 PM

    Luis Cazares - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:21 PM

    Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:08 PM

    Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

    Please, don't feed the troll.
    He will come with some lame excuse and call his 99 years of experience solving problems with databases in ancient Egypt and calling some standard protected by the CIA.

    I didn't know that Cello was fluent on hieroglyphics.

    He's not.  He just claims to have written the ANSI/ISO standards for them. 😀

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  • Jeff Moden - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 4:14 PM

    Thom A - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:34 PM

    Luis Cazares - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:21 PM

    Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:08 PM

    Okay, waiting to see what happens after calling out Mr. Celko's flawed code in the cursor thread.

    Please, don't feed the troll.
    He will come with some lame excuse and call his 99 years of experience solving problems with databases in ancient Egypt and calling some standard protected by the CIA.

    I didn't know that Cello was fluent on hieroglyphics.

    He's not.  He just claims to have written the ANSI/ISO standards for them. 😀

    LMAO! That's the best one I've heard in a while. 😀😀😀

  • Fed the troll some more.

  • I only post here for the trolls. One day, I will become one.

    P.S

    Think the forums just got thread bombed by the ultimate troll.

  • We cranked down some of the SPAM checks for new users. I went and looked at the number of posts caught and marked. For months it's been single digits per day. Over the last week it's been thousands, so I've gotten my boss to agree this is an issue.

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