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Steve Jones
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I've been going to SQL Bits since number 3, they are fantastic. I actually enjoy them more and feel I learn mor from them that the paid for conferences. At the paid for ones it feels like there is a lot of pressure to deliver enough content to make the deligates (and the people who paid for them) feel that they had got their moneys worth. The free ones are a lot mere relaxed and somehow seem to deliver more out of it (at least SQL Bits do)

I'll definatly be going to the next one, and also doing my best to talk all my friends and collegues into going to (OK. Just the ones that are into SQL Server!) :-D

Maybe see some of you peeps there too?

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There's only been one large free SQL specific event locally. I presented at it, and helped put it on (although Adam Machanic did most of the work), which technically means I attended. But yeah, I'd go to the free one's as well. Why not? It's usually many of the same people presenting, so you'll get high quality stuff. Plus, you get different perspectives from the people that aren't as well known, but are absolutely equally capable.

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Outside of the local SQL Server user group and a rare local free Microsoft event, there's no money in the budget for conferences or formal training. So I take an occasional evening or weekend and hit the books. You would think I live in the third world, not one of the wealthiest counties in the US. :-P
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I used to live in Northern New Hampshire where I was at least 2 hours from the nearest events, usually more like 3 or 4 (Boston), including user groups. When I moved to the Orlando area a couple of years ago one of the benefits was a local SQL Server user group within 30 minutes and all kinds of other events. In my first 6 months here I had gone to a Day with Joe Celko for $99, the first SQLSaturday, a day of Silverlight, and the Orlando PASS. Since then I have spoken at 2 user groups, 2 SQLSaturday's and my level of knowledge about SQL Server has increased greatly. As far as professional development goes, I couldn't imagine going back to where I was and I don't understand why anyone would NOT want to attend a free training event and/or user group.



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I have been to several SQL Saturdays and .Net Code Camps and I went to SQL PASS 2008. I think the free events are great and I have learned a lot and made a lot of friends (especially if you volunteer), however, as you advance in your knowledge level, attending PASS is something you want to consider. The speakers there were all tops in the industry, very knowledgeable, seasoned speakers and very open to answering questions and just chatting. The vendors at PASS were helpful as well, especially Microsoft and Redgate. I have also been to a couple of MSDN events and, although they were interesting, most of the topics were about new software or features that it will probably be a year before my office even considers getting.
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I have traveled 2 hours to the SQL Saturday Event in Birmingham, AL. Then I have gone 3 hours up to Huntsville to some other user group meetings. I try to go to free events as often as I can if I have the money to travel and work lets me off.

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I guess my question is, why would you NOT go to one of these events? Fear that maybe the people presenting don't know what they're talking about? So leave the session. It only costs some time, which, while important, is something that you should be spending to increase your knowledge and employability.

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There's definitely a different value proposition for user group meetings vs an all day event. User groups typically only have a single presenter and if turns out not be what you expected, the only other value is the networking. I've grown to have an appreciation of the networking so it's never a total loss for me. Equally, many only go to a user group if they are interested in the topic. I can understand that, though I think they still miss out on value.

By comparision, an all day event (assuming 2 tracks as a minimum) is almost a guaranteed win. If a session isn't what you expected, pick up and go to another one. There are definitely more newbie speakers at free events (by design) but I've rarely been disappointed with the content. If they have the knowledge and passion, I can live through any blips in their presentation skills.

I agree with Trish that PASS (or other paid events) have value too. If budget allows I definitely recommend attending.

But to answer the question, I attend any free training that I can find - it has and continues to pay dividends for me.

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I think we need more people like Steve talking about and promoting user group events and SQL Saturdays. I run a user group and have a SQL Saturday coming up. The folks where I live do like to attend all this and benefit but they dont think it is a feather on their cap like attending conferences or even formal training. A conference is a very glamor thing, for lots of people - especially the big ones like Tech Ed. I got comments from people to do SQL Saturday on a working day so that they get time off from work to come..i don't change my schedule for them..if you want to learn, you come. And there are people who do. Just far fewer than the ones who are in it for the glamor.
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