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Understanding Your Value


Understanding Your Value

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BWAAA-HAAAA!!!! I wonder how many people that respond to the survey know how to get the current date and time in SQL Server. Wink



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Hi!
The biggest issue in pay matters is that pay is very much influenced by the direct or indirect returns on the pay investment.
In other words: a DBA who has 7 years of experience all in the same industry will be paid more than another DBA with similar technical skills but who's green to the industry.
Why is this so? Because the former will hit the ground running faster and already has a wealth of experience for which he doesn't need training.
Technical jargon, underlying assumptions, etc. all play a role. Most surveys, however, completely fail at taking this into account,
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andrea.raimondi - Tuesday, January 2, 2018 1:43 AM
In other words: a DBA who has 7 years of experience all in the same industry will be paid more than another DBA with similar technical skills but who's green to the industry.
Why is this so? Because the former will hit the ground running faster and already has a wealth of experience for which he doesn't need training.



That would only be true if all industries paid the same, but that's not the case.

You can make a jump from a low-paying industry (say, education) over to a high-paying industry (say, hedge funds) where no one knows the industry well, and get a huge pay increase right away.

And besides - if you were right, then I'd be the lowest-paid DBA of all since I constantly jump from one industry to another. I have a feeling that's not the case. ;-)




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Jeff Moden - Monday, January 1, 2018 11:30 PM

BWAAA-HAAAA!!!! I wonder how many people that respond to the survey know how to get the current date and time in SQL Server. Wink


I can get the current date and time from SQL Server...
BigGrin

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Jeff Moden - Monday, January 1, 2018 11:30 PM

BWAAA-HAAAA!!!! I wonder how many people that respond to the survey know how to get the current date and time in SQL Server. Wink


Well clearly all you need to do is RDC into the server then look at the little clock in the task bar BigGrin

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BWAAA-HAAAA!!!! I wonder how many people that respond to the survey know how to get the current date and time in SQL Server. Wink


Well clearly all you need to do is RDC into the server then look at the little clock in the task bar BigGrin


Why do that? Surely the server is the same as my workstation. I'll just look at my little clock. Or my watch Laugh

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It's a dynamic free market thing, there is not fixed value. Supply and demand.
A lot has to do with time and circumstance as well. How anxious a company is to get a slot filled can raise the price, how anxious the applicant is to get the job can lower it. Negotiation skills, as well as willingness to take a risk and walk from an offer have an effect.

Stability is another factor. One may look for a bigger pay from a job that may not last more than 2 or 3 years. One may accept less pay from a company whose employees tend to stay for decades.

Self reporting surveys are also a problem. People being paid well are more likely to fill out these surveys (or even exaggerate) than people who are unsatisfied with their position.

[Self reporting, frequently used for nutrition studies, is highly suspect. Recently researchers gathered together self reported dietary information from many studies and analyzed the results. Apparently about 2/3 of the people in those studies should already be dead from malnutrition.]

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, January 2, 2018 9:01 AM
ZZartin - Tuesday, January 2, 2018 8:09 AM
Jeff Moden - Monday, January 1, 2018 11:30 PM

BWAAA-HAAAA!!!! I wonder how many people that respond to the survey know how to get the current date and time in SQL Server. Wink


Well clearly all you need to do is RDC into the server then look at the little clock in the task bar BigGrin


Why do that? Surely the server is the same as my workstation. I'll just look at my little clock. Or my watch Laugh


Heh... if only some of the people came up with even that, I'd have given them a point for being humorous. As Manoj Bhargava, the owner of 5 Hour Energy stated, "If you can't be useful, at least be entertaining". Wink

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced ree-bar and is a Modenism for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column.
If you think its expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur. -- Red Adair

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