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  • Nice one....

  • Not sure why I did not even bother to read before attempting and marked BIDS 🙂

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  • I select SSDT as now when we open new SQL SERVER 2012 it comes with name Server Server Data Tool so I selected that option but still got wrong :w00t:

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  • kapil_kk (7/18/2013)


    I select SSDT as now when we open new SQL SERVER 2012 it comes with name Server Server Data Tool so I selected that option but still got wrong :w00t:

    It's not the most recent name 😉

    When you try SQL Server 2014, you have to download SSDTBI yourself (although I expect this will be solved in another CTP release of SQL 2014).

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  • For see SSDTBI, you need to install SQL Server 2014 CTP. Remember that you can not install SQL Server 2014 CTP with other SQL server instance, or side by side with other sql server instance. You install it with VM Ware (virtual machine).

    I am still waiting next CTP release, which override this issue 🙂

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  • Got it wrong, because 84% got it wrong too 🙂

    BIDS will stay among the folks, as shorter it is as easier to use.

    However thank you!

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  • So with SQL2012 it's called SSDT, but for SQL2014, which isn't out yet, it's called SSDTBI? Or is that over-simplifying 😉

  • IgorMi (7/19/2013)


    BIDS will stay among the folks, as shorter it is as easier to use.

    +1

    Don't understand the logic of the insistance on renaming something that everyone is happy with - except maybe someone who is probably in marketing!!! This reminds me of the confuision behind "cubes" and "symantic layer" (well almost!!!)

    How long before it is simply reverted back to BIDS???

    :crazy:

  • Toreador (7/19/2013)


    So with SQL2012 it's called SSDT, but for SQL2014, which isn't out yet, it's called SSDTBI? Or is that over-simplifying 😉

    That's oversimplifying 😀 SSDTBI (the one for Visual Studio 2012) can be downloaded seperately and be used for SQL Server 2012 as well.

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  • Yep missed that as well. And more fool me someone had said about VS 2012 being different - must have coffee before answering QotD! I haven't upgraded VS to 2012 yet.

    SSDTBI just doesn't have the same ring to it!

    Rodders...

  • Michael Riemer (7/19/2013)


    IgorMi (7/19/2013)


    BIDS will stay among the folks, as shorter it is as easier to use.

    +1

    Don't understand the logic of the insistance on renaming something that everyone is happy with - except maybe someone who is probably in marketing!!! This reminds me of the confuision behind "cubes" and "symantic layer" (well almost!!!)

    How long before it is simply reverted back to BIDS???

    :crazy:

    You're right, it is crazy. That's the whole point of this QotD. Highlight the "stupidity" of renaming a well known product two times, which leads only to confusion.

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  • Sad to get so close (SSDT) and still get it wrong! Good question ...

  • renamed to SSDTBI to avoid confusion! could have fooled me.

    So with SQL2012 and 2014 install media we dont get the option to install the BIDS equivalent? that sounds a backward step. Or have I misunderstood?

    Are SSDT and SSDTBI separate things? which one do I install for developing SSIS packages?

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  • Should have been back to BIDS instead of SSDTBI. we call simply BI Tool

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