The Test of Time

  • The first computer that I learned programming on was the DEC PDP-8 (FOCAL, and assembly) at USC's College of Engineering; in the Computer Science department, I did programming on their various PDP-11.

    At home, I have a DEC VAXStation II/GPX that I want to fire up and install a BSD version of UNIX.

  • I’m sure many of you are old enough to remember when Novell Netware was king and “poor” Windows NT was dismissed out of hand (some said that NT stood for Nice Try) and would never be in a position to challenge Novell’s dominance. And it was true in the early days that NT’s performance comparatively stunk.

    We know how that story turned out.

    A quick little anecdote: Back in the early 2000s a group of us at work were standing around a PC that was browsing Novell’s website and we were arguing about which product was better. One of the Netware fans was gushing about the performance of their website. Then a voice in the back of the group suggested “Maybe that’s because no one else is on it…”

  • jshahan (6/22/2015)


    A quick little anecdote: Back in the early 2000s a group of us at work were standing around a PC that was browsing Novell’s website and we were arguing about which product was better. One of the Netware fans was gushing about the performance of their website. Then a voice in the back of the group suggested “Maybe that’s because no one else is on it…”

    LOL, that's great.

    I loved Netware's performance on IPX v Windows early stuff, but certainly Netware was slow to move to IP based work. That was an issue, and NDS was a huge step up in complexity. It might have worked better than domains in AD, but it caused lots of people to rethink their choice.

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (6/23/2015)

    I loved Netware's performance on IPX v Windows early stuff, but certainly Netware was slow to move to IP based work. That was an issue, and NDS was a huge step up in complexity. It might have worked better than domains in AD, but it caused lots of people to rethink their choice.

    And remember how impressive the CNE credential was initially? For a while you could make hiring decisions based on that (at least in terms of skills). Then it became like a real estate license. We hired some poor guy with a CNE card and soon it was obvious that he couldn't do the work. Apparently he had memorized the answers for the CNE test from some kind of cheat sheet that was widely available. Come to think of it, the MCSE credential had similar issue for a while. I think they've made improvements.

  • I worked for one company 15 years. I've been with my current one for nearly 16. I get comfortable and it takes a lot for me to want to leave. I plan on retiring from my current job in a few years.

  • jshahan (6/23/2015)


    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (6/23/2015)

    I loved Netware's performance on IPX v Windows early stuff, but certainly Netware was slow to move to IP based work. That was an issue, and NDS was a huge step up in complexity. It might have worked better than domains in AD, but it caused lots of people to rethink their choice.

    And remember how impressive the CNE credential was initially? For a while you could make hiring decisions based on that (at least in terms of skills). Then it became like a real estate license. We hired some poor guy with a CNE card and soon it was obvious that he couldn't do the work. Apparently he had memorized the answers for the CNE test from some kind of cheat sheet that was widely available. Come to think of it, the MCSE credential had similar issue for a while. I think they've made improvements.

    I certainly remember it and worked with a few CNEs that weren't worth the paper. Not sure the MCSE is better by itself.

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