December 12, 2014 at 9:55 am
OCTom (12/12/2014)
don.schaeffer (12/12/2014)
I hope it's the last job as I've got just a few years to retirement but if things go downhill at my current position I will move.Someone mentioned mentoring after retirement. I've wondered about that. How do you do that?
I've been menotring for about 10 years. Most of it has been through formal programs at schools. Usually a teacher identifies a student who is good at math and science and/or has a real interest in developing. We don't want anyone who is interested in playing video games. We want students who are interested in creating. The ages are generally 12 to 17. Although, I did mentor a 10 year old who was very talented.
I usually meet with the student at their home after work. The home must be set up so that there is another adult always present. That is for my protection. We can not be alone for even a second.
The agenda is to come up with an application that the teacher agrees with and may have some utility for the school or maybe a business. There are some business partners that help to pay the costs of the program and to present ideas for applications. The length of time is usually a semester. The mentoring is a volunteer position. The costs come in because the program supplies the youth with a laptop. Business partneers usually pick up those costs.
Before a student is selected for the program, they must sign a contract stating that they have will maintain at least a B average overall. If they do not maintain that average, the mentoring ends. That happened to me once out of 12 youths I've mentored.
I have also mentored children of friends informally.
I am amazed at the abilities of these children. I continue contact with these people thorughout their education. I recently recieved an email from a student who is performing at a high level at MIT. He credits me with giving him a solid foundation. I am very humbled.
Tom
Tom: very cool! I'm going to forward this to our hr dept to see if they are interested in setting up something like it. I don't have kids, though lots of nieces and nephews, and I miss more chances to work with them.
December 12, 2014 at 9:59 am
BWFC (12/12/2014)
John Mitchell-245523 (12/12/2014)
BWFC (12/12/2014)
that could be we TUPE straight out through the door.I'm no lawyer, but as I understand it, TUPE protects you from any changes that are made as a direct result of the transfer of the undertaking. In particular, they can't take you on and just automatically make you redundant. Even if they did, your redundancy terms and length of service will be protected, so you wouldn't lose out completely. In any case, it sounds as if you've enough experience to have a fighting chance of getting another job in the same field. Don't be too disheartened, and good luck!
John
From the research that we've done it seems that if there's no suitable employment they can make us redundant pretty much immediately. There are conditions about it for both sides but it is a possibility.
I've said before though, that although I'm now actually more likely to be made redundant than I was in my old job for the same company, I'm in a much better position to get another decent job afterwards. I'm definitely doing my best to look at it as the glass is half full. .....Rumour has it we're woefully under-paid for what we do so having to move on may not be a bad thing...
It was a long time ago in a galaxy far away, but I accepted a pay cut to work as a development company knowing I would be underpaid - but gaining experience. A year later they moved to another state, where the corporate headquarters of the company that bought them was located. I turned down the ridiculous offer for moving expenses and raise, but ended up getting a 66% raise on my first interview!
So yes, it is entirely possibly that you could end up at another company with far better compensation than what you have. It does happen. Good luck!
Dave
December 12, 2014 at 10:10 am
djackson 22568 (12/12/2014)
BWFC (12/12/2014)
John Mitchell-245523 (12/12/2014)
BWFC (12/12/2014)
that could be we TUPE straight out through the door.I'm no lawyer, but as I understand it, TUPE protects you from any changes that are made as a direct result of the transfer of the undertaking. In particular, they can't take you on and just automatically make you redundant. Even if they did, your redundancy terms and length of service will be protected, so you wouldn't lose out completely. In any case, it sounds as if you've enough experience to have a fighting chance of getting another job in the same field. Don't be too disheartened, and good luck!
John
From the research that we've done it seems that if there's no suitable employment they can make us redundant pretty much immediately. There are conditions about it for both sides but it is a possibility.
I've said before though, that although I'm now actually more likely to be made redundant than I was in my old job for the same company, I'm in a much better position to get another decent job afterwards. I'm definitely doing my best to look at it as the glass is half full. .....Rumour has it we're woefully under-paid for what we do so having to move on may not be a bad thing...
It was a long time ago in a galaxy far away, but I accepted a pay cut to work as a development company knowing I would be underpaid - but gaining experience. A year later they moved to another state, where the corporate headquarters of the company that bought them was located. I turned down the ridiculous offer for moving expenses and raise, but ended up getting a 66% raise on my first interview!
So yes, it is entirely possibly that you could end up at another company with far better compensation than what you have. It does happen. Good luck!
Thanks for the encouragement Dave. For the sake of completeness, I have to say I can't complain one little bit about my current situation and how I got here. I was asked to join the BI team from Ops, having no SQL or IT experience but knowing how the business worked pretty much inside out. They even gave me a (small) pay rise compared to my old job. I've been encouraged, trained and rewarded every step of the way since becoming a 'professional or specialist' as my handbook calls me. It's because of this that I'm nothing like as nervous about the future as I could be. It'll be much easier to find a job when I know what I do and I know that there are other people out there that do the same. Previously it would have been a case of 'what do I do now' rather than 'I'm a BI developer, I'll get another job doing that'.
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December 12, 2014 at 10:15 am
Good question, I might have to think on that for a while. I have been doing this job in this department for almost 25 years and for this employer for almost 30. Started in IT in 72, and I know that it is odd to have written programs that output to punched cards or paper tape, and now be thinking about developing restful api's and android apps.
I have said that I will work till it is no fun any more. It still is as exciting as ever and getting more so. Is this the last full time job? Could be but who knows?
M.
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December 12, 2014 at 11:25 am
david.wright-948385 (12/12/2014)
Are you looking for a raise Steve 😉
I'll take one, but no. I make a good living, and I'd gladly forgo a raise this year for a few more vacation days.
December 12, 2014 at 11:26 am
OCTom (12/12/2014)
My current job is my last full time IT job. I retire Jan. 30, 2015.Tom
Congrats, and best of luck enjoying yourself.
December 12, 2014 at 11:36 am
Pretty much the same for me. Here's my list:
Gardening
Sailing
Photography
Piano playing
Organ playing
Beer drinking
Volunteering
Even though I truly enjoy working in technology, at 71 I better get started on my list and let the younger folks take over the work.
December 12, 2014 at 11:39 am
Miles Neale (12/12/2014)
Good question, I might have to think on that for a while. I have been doing this job in this department for almost 25 years and for this employer for almost 30...M.
I've been with this employer for 25 years, but there actually is an informal 'old timers club' here with a good number of people who've been here longer than that. One guy who retired a couple of years ago came here out of the military in the early 70s, running punch cards on an IBM mainframe.
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December 12, 2014 at 12:45 pm
I lost loads from my pension pot with Equitable Life so financially my family is more likely to benefit from "death in service" than my pension.
I know several people who have retired more than once and gone back to work for the joy of it. They could afford not to work which put them in a really good position with regard to saying "No". One of the hardest things to do is to tell someone "No" when they are trying to shovel too much work onto you or asking you to work extreme hours, often with the threat to job security if you don't comply.
My enthusiasm for tech related jobs ebbs and flows. I get really fired up when I go to SQL Bits, QCon etc and when I talk with friends and ex-colleagues. It's negative office politics that drain me of enthusiasm. I understand and accept that office politics will always exist because there are many different concerns to be balanced. Those aren't the politics that bother me. It's the over-promoted defending their empires by any means possible that get me down.
In general I've worked with and for great people. I've worked with managers I would walk over hot coals for but who would never ask me to do so. I've worked in places where we worked hard, played hard and drove each other to achieve amazing things.
Even the most committed, passionate and enthusiastic person can be destroyed by a single bad manager.
Over the past few years I've found myself asking what I would do if I wasn't in IT. I still haven't got an answer but I do know that my passion for IT has been supressed, not extinguished. I hope this isn't my last job in IT, I don't think it will be.
December 12, 2014 at 1:29 pm
I've said that this will be my last job for the last 3 jobs that I've had. 🙂
I'm 6 years away from an 'early' retirement because I've rolled over every plan I've had into my own controlled fund!! 😎
My current job should be but if an offer I can't refuse comes about, I'm taking it.
December 12, 2014 at 1:31 pm
I'm a odd one. I'm only 32 years old and just starting out in database development. I worked in the video game industry for 8 years in a non-tech role within digital marketing. But, I've always had that tech side in me since I was 15 because of my passion to program.
So, I have plenty of years left in me as long as my health holds up. What I can do next could be anything. I personally am thinking about starting a business teaching high-end video game development to kids or possibly opening a LAN/Arcade center up in my area.
I guess the sky is the limits and I feel that thinking too far in advance is bad for your health. So much can change in the blink of an eye, why worry about your next job?
December 12, 2014 at 1:49 pm
Here's how I compute it: My length at a position varies from two to eight years with an average of five. I have been at my current company six years. I plan to retire in fifteen yrs. I will be checking out new opportunities next year.
15 / 5 = 3
So I will probably work for three more companies before retiring. That it not to say that I couldn't be happy at finding that golden one and staying there.
After retirement, I look forward to working part time, perhaps on a contract basis, writing blogs, or being more involved in the SQL community -- and other activities which I can never seem to find time to do now.
December 15, 2014 at 3:53 am
This is definitely my last commercial job, with last day in the office Friday of this week.
I have been offered a 1-day per week job with a charity to help with their SQL Server environment, and it will be a privilege to help them. Hopefully this and other opportunities will give me a reason to get up each morning while I remain capable of doing so.
If I am going over the hill, I can see that the grass really is greener and there are a lot of new places to explore!
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December 15, 2014 at 3:25 pm
I'm 64 years old. This will be my last job.
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