The Creepiness of AI

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor

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  • David.Poole

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    There are legal ramifications too.  If an AI Bot talks someone into an inappropriate purchase that breaches laws and regulations who is liable?  Can the company making the sale claim that no-one is culpable?

    Read "Sea of Rust" by Robert Cargyle.

  • allinadazework

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    "I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you."
    Big tech is watching over you... but who is watching over big tech?

  • dsor

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    David.Poole - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:13 AM

    There are legal ramifications too.  If an AI Bot talks someone into an inappropriate purchase that breaches laws and regulations who is liable?  Can the company making the sale claim that no-one is culpable?

    Read "Sea of Rust" by Robert Cargyle.

    I see no reason for why that would happen. Seems much more likely that the last known operator is held responsible, much like any other automated software we've had in the past

  • amir.kachlon

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    Thanks for sharing, such a mind opening post 🙂

  • call.copse

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    I'm less worried about how creepy they appear than how easily AI may be used to manipulate us, as we are easily manipulated creatures:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/robot-manipulates-humans-creepy-new-experiment-should-we-be-worried-ncna900361

  • allinadazework

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    call.copse - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 3:11 AM

    I'm less worried about how creepy they appear than how easily AI may be used to manipulate us, as we are easily manipulated creatures:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/robot-manipulates-humans-creepy-new-experiment-should-we-be-worried-ncna900361

    The question is what do we get out of these things? Where is the benefit to people? I suppose they could help alleviate loneliness and provide companionship but ultimately isn't that just a replacement for other people?
    So what is the point of AI if not to squeeze dollars out of people?

  • Bob Razumich

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    "...there is a downside. Could you imagine artificial personas used in telephone scams or phishing situations? A help desk knowing some information and then asking for verification of other data?"

    I've already received calls like this on my phone. The first time caught me by surprise, because initially the voice seemed to be interacting as if it were human. It was only when the voice response (AI?) system got a response from me that resulted in an odd statement from the "caller" that I figured out it was fake. So, for my money, the Google Call example is already going on for groups trying to make a fast buck on the unsuspecting.

  • Eric M Russell

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    There are clues that you're speaking with an AI version of a customer support agent: they speak clearly, are patient, and don't put you on hold.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • Stephen Scott

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    Turns out DARPA is already working on the problem!  AI to detect and spoof AI - machines fighting machines.  They fight for us, they fight against us.  Very matrix-esque. 
    https://www.foxnews.com/tech/pentagon-approaches-massive-new-ai-machine-learning-breakthrough

    What does it all mean?  Well, I think it means we will be living in a future where multi level verification will be the norm.  Use of encryption will be much greater, and we'll sure need to take more things with a grain of salt.  It means we're is a gold rush to gather every bit of data about people - not just their online presence.  All of this data is what will drive AI to be able to make the fake videos, make the fake phone calls, all to spoof humans.  It means we should be regulating this stuff now, which Microsoft (and others) are already doing.
    https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/07/13/facial-recognition-technology-the-need-for-public-regulation-and-corporate-responsibility/

  • Rod at work

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    Stephen Scott - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 10:05 AM

    Turns out DARPA is already working on the problem!  AI to detect and spoof AI - machines fighting machines.  They fight for us, they fight against us.  Very matrix-esque. 
    https://www.foxnews.com/tech/pentagon-approaches-massive-new-ai-machine-learning-breakthrough

    What does it all mean?  Well, I think it means we will be living in a future where multi level verification will be the norm.  Use of encryption will be much greater, and we'll sure need to take more things with a grain of salt.  It means we're is a gold rush to gather every bit of data about people - not just their online presence.  All of this data is what will drive AI to be able to make the fake videos, make the fake phone calls, all to spoof humans.  It means we should be regulating this stuff now, which Microsoft (and others) are already doing.
    https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/07/13/facial-recognition-technology-the-need-for-public-regulation-and-corporate-responsibility/

    I agree with you. especially with multi level verification systems. Even on a small scale, I've adopted something like this. When using Amazon to purchase things, years ago I disabled the whole "One Button Buy" option in Amazon. I'm glad I did. I don't have an Alexa device at home, but probably will some day. I don't want Alexa (or Cortana, or Google Assistant, or any other digital assistant) capable of making a purchase with a single click, single spoke word "OK", or anything else like that.

    Kindest Regards, Rod Connect with me on LinkedIn.

  • miapjp

    Right there with Babe

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    call.copse - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 3:11 AM

    I'm less worried about how creepy they appear than how easily AI may be used to manipulate us, as we are easily manipulated creatures:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/robot-manipulates-humans-creepy-new-experiment-should-we-be-worried-ncna900361

    Hmm, that article.  I can't even throw away stuffed animals.....

  • Eric M Russell

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    miapjp - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:39 PM

    call.copse - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 3:11 AM

    I'm less worried about how creepy they appear than how easily AI may be used to manipulate us, as we are easily manipulated creatures:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/robot-manipulates-humans-creepy-new-experiment-should-we-be-worried-ncna900361

    Hmm, that article.  I can't even throw away stuffed animals.....

    In both cases, the participants hesitated when the robot said: “No! Please do not switch me off!†— and some refused to turn Nao off altogether. Asked why they were reluctant to turn the robot off, one participant said, “Because Nao said he does not want to be switched off.†Another said, “I felt sorry for him.†

      

    Millennials... :rolleyes:

    OK, it looks like the eyes rolling emoji is broken. That's the only emoji I actually like using.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • miapjp

    Right there with Babe

    Points: 765

    Eric M Russell - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:20 PM

    miapjp - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:39 PM

    call.copse - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 3:11 AM

    I'm less worried about how creepy they appear than how easily AI may be used to manipulate us, as we are easily manipulated creatures:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/robot-manipulates-humans-creepy-new-experiment-should-we-be-worried-ncna900361

    Hmm, that article.  I can't even throw away stuffed animals.....

    In both cases, the participants hesitated when the robot said: “No! Please do not switch me off!†— and some refused to turn Nao off altogether. Asked why they were reluctant to turn the robot off, one participant said, “Because Nao said he does not want to be switched off.†Another said, “I felt sorry for him.†

      

    Millennials... :rolleyes:

    OK, it looks like the eyes rolling emoji is broken. That's the only emoji I actually like using.

    I'm a boomer

  • Eric M Russell

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    miapjp - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 2:28 PM

    I'm a boomer

    In all fairness, I don't believe the vast majority of the public, regardless of generation, would take orders from, or feel sorry for, a robot. I think it's just wishful thinking on the part of corporate America.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

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