Introducing SQL+ Dot Net

  • Alan Hyneman

    Mr or Mrs. 500

    Points: 510

    Comments posted to this topic are about the item Introducing SQL+ Dot Net

    Alan Hyneman

  • Tim Johnstone

    SSC Rookie

    Points: 33

    The website for this product indicates you can "try" for free. Presumably then there's a cost, but no published pricing or explanation of what features are cost. I'm interested, but I'm not investing time looking in to it without knowing what it'll ultimately cost or when the cost will kick in. Can you elaborate?

  • Robert Sterbal-482516

    SSCrazy

    Points: 2785

    The introduction was full of marketing speak.

    The rest of the article was much more compelling.

  • Alan Hyneman

    Mr or Mrs. 500

    Points: 510

    Tim Johnstone - Thursday, March 7, 2019 3:36 AM

    The website for this product indicates you can "try" for free. Presumably then there's a cost, but no published pricing or explanation of what features are cost. I'm interested, but I'm not investing time looking in to it without knowing what it'll ultimately cost or when the cost will kick in. Can you elaborate?

    Pricing is tiered as follows:

    Free     0.00  Includes 2,000 file generations first month, 100 thereafter.
    Individual 19.95 Includes 2,000 file generations per month. Does not support teams.
    Small Team 49.95 Includes 5,000 file generations per month. Supports teams up to 5 users.
    Enterprise 99.95 Includes 10,000 file generations per month. Supports teams up to 100 users.

    It would be real nice to give this away, but it has to be self sustaining.

    Alan Hyneman

  • Alan Hyneman

    Mr or Mrs. 500

    Points: 510

    Tim Johnstone - Thursday, March 7, 2019 3:36 AM

    The website for this product indicates you can "try" for free. Presumably then there's a cost, but no published pricing or explanation of what features are cost. I'm interested, but I'm not investing time looking in to it without knowing what it'll ultimately cost or when the cost will kick in. Can you elaborate?

    Pricing is tiered as follows:

    Free 0.00 Includes 2,000 file generations first month, 100 thereafter.
    Individual 19.95 Includes 2,000 file generations per month. Does not support teams.
    Small Team 49.95 Includes 5,000 file generations per month. Supports teams up to 5 users.
    Enterprise 99.95 Includes 10,000 file generations per month. Supports teams up to 100 users.

    It would be real nice to give this away, but it has to be self sustaining.

    Alan Hyneman

  • x

    SSC-Insane

    Points: 23564

    ALAN.H.HYNEMAN - Thursday, March 7, 2019 5:43 AM

    Tim Johnstone - Thursday, March 7, 2019 3:36 AM

    The website for this product indicates you can "try" for free. Presumably then there's a cost, but no published pricing or explanation of what features are cost. I'm interested, but I'm not investing time looking in to it without knowing what it'll ultimately cost or when the cost will kick in. Can you elaborate?

    Pricing is tiered as follows:

    Free     0.00  Includes 2,000 file generations first month, 100 thereafter.
    Individual 19.95 Includes 2,000 file generations per month. Does not support teams.
    Small Team 49.95 Includes 5,000 file generations per month. Supports teams up to 5 users.
    Enterprise 99.95 Includes 10,000 file generations per month. Supports teams up to 100 users.

    It would be real nice to give this away, but it has to be self sustaining.

    Limitting "file generations" would be a dealbreaker. Given how routine it is to produce dot net code to access sql anyways, you are probably just pricing the product too high and putting unneeded restrictions on it. I don't mind paying for programming but the restrictions would disqualify it for me, hopefully for you maybe others wouldn't see it as a disadvantage.

  • David Stout

    SSC Enthusiast

    Points: 180

    What is the benefit of the ADO piece? Why not just use a stored procedure?

  • Alan Hyneman

    Mr or Mrs. 500

    Points: 510

    David Stout - Thursday, March 7, 2019 7:10 AM

    What is the benefit of the ADO piece? Why not just use a stored procedure?

    The ADO piece is using your stored procedure, I guess I don't get the question

    Alan Hyneman

  • michael.lunsford

    SSC Rookie

    Points: 37

    Is that pricing per month? What is the website link? Most of my searches just give me a bunch of results for an Oracle tool.

  • Alan Hyneman

    Mr or Mrs. 500

    Points: 510

    Yeah, it's fairly routine to create the ado.net code, but also tedious and error prone. You can write that code all day long for free, or you can click a button and have it written for you. If you do that once a month, the product has more than payed for itself, and you haven't even touched things like transient error handling, field validation, or the POCO's that you have to create.

    Alan Hyneman

  • x

    SSC-Insane

    Points: 23564

    michael.lunsford - Thursday, March 7, 2019 7:30 AM

    Is that pricing per month? What is the website link? Most of my searches just give me a bunch of results for an Oracle tool.

    yeah sql+ as a name is a bit unfortunate LOL

  • x

    SSC-Insane

    Points: 23564

    ALAN.H.HYNEMAN - Thursday, March 7, 2019 7:54 AM

    Yeah, it's fairly routine to create the ado.net code, but also tedious and error prone. You can write that code all day long for free, or you can click a button and have it written for you. If you do that once a month, the product has more than payed for itself, and you haven't even touched things like transient error handling, field validation, or the POCO's that you have to create.

     I think its a bit pricey considering what it does, but the limit on executions is a dealbreaker. Best of luck in any case!

  • Alan Hyneman

    Mr or Mrs. 500

    Points: 510

    I have to ask, did you read the article all the way to the end??
    The name of the product is SQL Plus Dot Net
    Partly for the syntax --+Required, --+Email  etc
    and .net for the visual studio extension
    end you end up with
    http://www.SqlPlus.net

    Alan Hyneman

  • kiwood

    Ten Centuries

    Points: 1074

    I think you need to work on your transparency. While the idea appears good, the transparency prevents me from really looking. Your pricing should be on the site without me having to give out my contact info. I wouldn't begin to approach my manager without some idea of the price point. And I won't give out my contact information without some idea if the manager would approve the purchase. That is just the reality of my situation.

    I suggest you edit your article to indicate this is a commercial product. I don't take issue with charging for your work, it should be reveled before people go to look. Pricing need to include a little more detail. I am guessing that for the team total cost is $99.00? But for how long? What is considered a file generation? If this code is generated the way I want it - then your example makes three files. If a "file generation" means each of those three files each time the routine gets updated then I could see the limit being hit by an individual sometimes.

    The product I work on has over 600 tables and close to 100 views. Taking a simplistic four procedures per table and 1 per view, then figuring 3 files per procedure and we are at 75% of the limit. This may only be during initial move - but it would give pause.

  • roby 44391

    Newbie

    Points: 8

    Hate to break it to you but ado.net code generators are not new (T4 templates anyone?) and unfortunately there's nothing innovative about this.
    e.g. https://github.com/aeslinger0/sqlsharpener

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