DBAs still know whats best for their DB, right?

  • Actually there are many difficulties arising. I once attended a presentation where they showed us a software using SQL Server as backend. I was the only one not from the IT business, but was asked to attend. When we exchanged business cards, you should have seen their faces. 'A user, an ordinary user. WTF, has he got to do with it?' the faces seem to say. It was a pleasure for me to ask question on internals of their db and then see their faces.

     

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • Frank, your are the Omnipotent end user   It amazes me how people need their egos 🙂  I was talking to some DBA's a few months back at a meeting and they all knew everything and I knew everything they were saying was a crock of chicken fecal matter...

     

    Poor guy who started this thread got more than he bargained for


    "Keep Your Stick On the Ice" ..Red Green

  • Frank, your are the Omnipotent end user   It amazes me how people need their egos 🙂  I was talking to some DBA's a few months back at a meeting and they all knew everything and I knew everything they were saying was a crock of chicken fecal matter...

    No I am not! But I don't liked the prejudice from those guys, which seems to say: 'He is not in the IT business so what can he know? Nothing!'

    Well, they made a mistake...and their product was poor, too.

    But if I were omnipotent I would be master of Powerpoint. I strongly think that this programm is a masterpiece of software developing Easy to use, intuitive GUI, robust...

    ROTFL

     

     

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • I'm a big fan of notepad.  In fact, the first database I worked on was a notepad database.   I can do all kinds of neat stuff with it...Save files, word wrap, change the font, etc.   It has a nice GUI interface and great functionality.  You can store all kinds of things with it.   I am so good I can even start it from a Run prompt.

    You think Powerpoint is robust...check out Notepad 🙂


    "Keep Your Stick On the Ice" ..Red Green

  • That's note fair, most of it's disfunctionality was stolen from EDIT back in the DOS days, now there was a slick no bull OS.

  • I can do all kinds of neat stuff with it...Save files, word wrap, change the font, etc.   It has a nice GUI interface and great functionality.  You can store all kinds of things with it.   I am so good I can even start it from a Run prompt.

    If you show me how to paint the nicely coloured pictures and charts that management wants to see with Notepad, I'd buy you a virtual beer and enroll you with MS for being awarded the first Notepad MVP.

    And I don't mean those ASCII Art like here http://www.hsk.dk/note/kuriosa/cow-complete.html

     

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • ... coloured pictures and charts that management wants to see ...

    I get that A LOT is the part of my job I don't really like but they sign my pay check


    * Noel

  • I have a nice little C++ compiler that will let me create this upgraded version of notepad with imaging ability.   Problem is that I don't have the time on my hands....but it seems I have enough time to follow this thread

     

    Instead of the ol' EDIT how about vi!!! 


    "Keep Your Stick On the Ice" ..Red Green

  • What really convinced me of the speed issue was to open Profiler and watch was is going on. Get the Manager to your desk run a query 100 times that is inline. Then take the same query put it in a stored proc run it 100 time. Show him the diffference in Profiler so he can see exactly what SQL Server is doing that saves so much time. Try and somehow make it his idea to push this. Try to do this before the big meeting.

     

    HTH,

    Ross

  • Instead of the ol' EDIT how about vi!!! 

    Aah, glad you've mentioned the one and only true editor around

    Still trying to get the knot out of my fingers because of its easy short-cuts

    Are we drifting off-topic?

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • Anyone remember EDLIN and the F6 key?

  • Newbie,

    I don't envy you at all.  I am thinking of giving up DBA work, I'm so tired of fighting with the dev people, management and users.  I'm finding the whole thing mighty depressing.

     

     

     

     

  • ...but it isn't better in any other professional area. Only more or less interesting

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • Put down your issues in writing in unemotional language.

    E-mail said issues to your boss and copy in your HR manager.

    Keep a copy where you know you can get at it.

    If your boss is going to be a silly bugger over such fundamental basics then let the swine hang himself and when the flack starts you have teflon underpants.  Proof of your stance will be writing and confirmed in your file within HR.

    If you are really paranoid, post a copy of your objects to HR using registered post.  That way if it is ever "lost" then you have proof of sending and delivery.

    Keep your CV up-to-date.

     

  • Is there a reason why the HR department should be involved?

    Just curious.

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

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