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Grant Fritchey
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Heh... Crap! This forum wouldn't let me give this article any more than 5 stars and it wouldn't let me vote more than once.

On all fronts, well said, Grant.

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very well said... absolutely correct...:-)
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Steve should ban those words (URGENT or IMMEDIATE HELP or NOW) to appear in the title.

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D.Oc (5/13/2010)
Steve should ban those words (URGENT or IMMEDIATE HELP or NOW) to appear in the title.


Particularly when they are in upper case.


Nice editorial Grant, a polite rant if ever I saw one :-)

Now, if only the appropriate people would read it. Along with the one that says, " ... to help us help you please provide DDL, example data, results ..."

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Consultants don't want to work for free? How unfair of them. They should remember there are people stuck in jobs they can't do, and drop everything to give these people everything. Jobs may be at stake! </sarcasm>

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Olá,
não me parece que seja tão drástico colocar "Urgent" nos pedidos; aliás, desta forma, pode-se sempre tentar ajudar as pessoas com alguma ordem de prioridade.
No entanto, acho que muitas vezes as pessoas abusam da ajuda, pensam que os outros são criados deles e querem a toda a força que lhes façam o trabalho.
Assim não dá! Para isso que paguem a uma empresa.

In other words, if people wants the job done totaly and imediatly they must pay. nobody is slave!
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Very well done Grant! There was a lot of "yeah!" moments in there.

Thanks!

Wayne
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As long as you "send ... some coffee and a tasty snack " I would be happy to negoiate a price!! Truthfully being one of those dreaded <sarcasm> consultants who want to get paid I would happily negoiate a price for someone else to pay!

About FTEs and consultants who "want to get paid"? FTEs are getting paid for their advice also, they are just not being paid by the person who benefits. Either way, the asker should understand the reality of the situation.

Great article Grant.

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Excellent job, Grant!
The only question that remains open is: Where to draw the line?
But I guess it's almost impossible to answer...
Interview questions, test/homework, almost complete projects, several hundred lines of uncommented and unformatted code, urgent request and the like are easy to put in the "no-go box". But where should consulting begin instead of forum assistance?



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