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Dude, Your Fly is Open


Dude, Your Fly is Open

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Tim Mitchell
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Nice comparison with zipper and bad code, decisions etc.
I agree Tim, none of us are perfect, so in the event of a "not on purpose" mistake, or even if anything we do, could
be done better or improved, why not? Essentially we are all on the same team, and no one should have a team member
make mistakes.

There is no shame in taking advice, especially if it's good advice!
Watching someone make a mistake, and leaving it, is on you.

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Thanks Tim. This was a nice reminder on accepting and owning up to a mistake. It is not a pleasant situation to need to discuss a mistake with somebody, but must be done from time to time.



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Absolutely agree, much better to hear from someone quietly that you've made a blooper and even though that initial conversation can (and prob will) be awkward it is perfectly possible that it can lead to a fruitful professional friendship.

btw, if anyone has spotted any of my bloopers, please e-mail me quietly :-)

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Agree totally with the editorial. Constructive criticism is almost always the right thing to do, and if it's not appreciated then at least you know you did the right thing.

I'll also suggest a good rule of thumb (closely linked with Tim's point) is to criticise privately and congratulate publicly.

IMHO, of course....

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some good points Tim, and perhaps a timely reminder for anyone suffering from 'forum fatigue'.

there will of course always be people who cannot accept having their points clarified, let alone criticised.

question, how would you privately correct someone on a public forum like SSC without leaving bad information out there to trip up someone coming along later?

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In the right environment, a public correction can have a great deal of benefit for many. It attempts to dispel urban myths and encourages open debate. Obviously, this is different from the "zipper issue" where being discrete is everything.

Adults, particularly professionals, need to differentiate between when it is beneficial for a wider audience and when it isn't.

Gaz

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Everyone can make bad decisions but what I find most annoying is when you in private talk to the person about it and he refuses to take responsibility for it and dose nothing about it. Very annoying and unprofessional. Having that happen is perhaps not very common but it's very bad and annoying.
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Great article. Nicely done about a difficult topic. You should work in HR.
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Good analogy.

I use all three, depending on the circumstances.

There have been times where I judged the error just needed to be fixed and nothing really needed to be said, so I did so.

There have been times where I felt a private communication (via whatever medium) was appropriate, so I did that.

And there have been times where I've called the person out publicly. I only resort to that when I feel that not doing so will cause more damage than doing so, or where I'm calling someone out for publicly berating another undeservedly.

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