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Steve Jones
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I think the site is fantastic and comprehensive without getting too "techie." Especially since it is so code oriented in some sections I think sections related to coding need lots of white space. Some sites throw so much junk on the page that it gets annoying just trying to follow a simple thread.

One possible addition could be a sandbox section connected to (for example) the AdventureWorks database and maybe even the different versions of SQL. This would allow testing our solutions to a forum question for example without having to have access to SSMS (as when at home or traveling). It would also allow testing new functionality of upgraded versions that a lot of us don't have access to yet in our work environments.

 

 
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Well, I like the site as it is, but sometimes you don't appreciate what improvements can be made until somebody shows you.

As for changing the logo, I'd need a new shirt...
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I don't agree with you - the site is as it should be easy and simple in design.
I don't know why something has to be changed for the only reason it has to be changed... and mostly the changes are for the bad.
One example is your new newsletter - sorry but the new design is crap!
-> so please leave the webpages as the are! Save us the time to cope with something new and you the time to do something what is not really necessary.

//Sarus
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Sarus1984 (8/5/2013)
I don't agree with you - the site is as it should be easy and simple in design.
I don't know why something has to be changed for the only reason it has to be changed... and mostly the changes are for the bad.
One example is your new newsletter - sorry but the new design is crap!
-> so please leave the webpages as the are! Save us the time to cope with something new and you the time to do something what is not really necessary.

//Sarus


I don't agree at all with Sarus1984. Some changes are needed: better article editor, picking the right article to quote (the one in whose header the quote button is) instead of counting from the bottom of the page as it would be if refreshed now, ability to view one's questions after acceptance and before publication, stop comments pushing the horizontal capacity so that the whole page of responses is using 2732 pixels width (or something getting on that way) forcing horizontal scrolling just about everywhere, and so on and so on. There are a lot of things wrong with the site, things that will be understood and whose repair needs to be designed by HCI experts and by developers.

Unfortunately, the resource available for fixing appears to consist of people whose expertise is in producing layouts that conform to the latest passing fad or fashion and have no concept of what interface design is actually about, or how to determine what is required of an interface and ensure that it meets that requirement. I think that's what Steve has told us in some of his comments, although of course he didn't use those exact words. Actually my comment is a bit OTT, and I suppose the people concerned have more of a clue than my comment suggests (I don't imagine that Red Gate employs deadbeats), but we do seem to have been hit by change for change's sake and what I've seen inclines me to think that it was purely fashion-driven with no thought for the impact on users other than tablet and smartphone users (simply because tablets and smartphones are currently the height of fashion).

So we shouldn't be against change. As Jeff says, change is inevitable. I'll add to that: some change is beneficial. But, paraphrasing Jeff, it isn't inevitable that that inevitable change is beneficial, and that's unfortunate. And we seem to have been hit y some non-beneficial (fashion-driven) change.

Tom

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I'll leave the quibbles on details to others but all I can say is of all the sites of this type I have looked at the overall look and feel of SSC is by far the best.

The design of the question and answer threads which are the bedrock of the site is clear and concise and easy to follow, so I really don't see a need to move too far from what we have now.

I am not a designer so maybe I just don't have the ability to imagine improvements, but I would vote for evolution rather than revolution.

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I also vote for leaving the site as-is from a design perspective, focusing on fixing any known bugs. I also vote for returning to the old newsletter format - I dislike the new format a lot.



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First of all thank you for doing this site, it is one of my favorite resources! While I am not against changing the look of the site I personally think functionality is key and hopefully now that we more or less know where to find stuff on the site, the new design will not require spending too much time figuring that all out again from scratch Smile
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I'll admit I'm mostly ambivalent about the newsletter change, though I prefer the older version only because it was easier on the old eyeballs.

And I must admit I'm not all that thrilled about the Windows8-style icons on the website. I know eventually I'll have to put up with them on my computer, but you guys can do better. I know this because doing better is why I come here every morning. Those things have no personality.

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I also subscribe to a web designer newsletter. I totally disagree with articles that propose updating logos, icons, etc. just to make them more "modern".

Responsive design includes recognizing the format of the user's device, so if your designers want to improve the look and feel for users of smartphones - great idea! But I don't own a smartphone, and the new newsletter looks like it is optimized for smartphone users. I prefer a landscape layout with minimal scrolling, so as long as your designers can use responsive design concepts, and not rearrange the look for traditional PC users, it would be greatly appreciated.
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