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SQL Server 2012 Insane Licensing Price!


SQL Server 2012 Insane Licensing Price!

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Hi, We are about to launch some new projects that has been designed to run under SQL Server 2012 databases. However after we ask our software vendor for the SQL Server Licensing price, we are about to give up using SQL Server and considering to adopt another database solution.

Let go to the numbers.

Case 1:
System: One system accessed from one applicantion server. This application Server opens several connections to the database. About 200 users.
Server: Dell Blade with 2 X Xeon 6 core total 12 core.
SQL Server Standart, Windows 2008 R2.

Price offered from our vendor:
USD 2818,00 for each 2 core per year.
Total USD 16912,00 per year X 3 years
Total SQL Server Licensing Cost for 3 years: US$ 50736,00!
Contract = Select + EA

We understand that is quite expensive for just one server with SQL Server Standart. Even using ORACLE the total price is above than 1/3 that SQL Server total price.


I really thank if somebody could help-me to check this license cost. If it is true, I going to study another database solutions, because SQL Server will be seriously commited in Small and medium companies.

Thanks in advance

Eduardo Pin
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Prices will vary depending on your agreement with MS and what plan you are on, eg Select aggreement, EA aggreement, Open Value, EAP etc etc.

Base price on NL without software assurance, at last check was $1793 per core, so that works out at a 1 off cost for 12 cores of $21516, but if you want to add things like software assurance into the mix the price will jump dramatically.

Also if the server is hosted co-lo your pretty much stuck with what the hosting provider says the cost is.

You would need to ask your vendor what the price includes as SA can be quite expensive. So if you dont need it, then dont buy it, but be warned that if you want to upgrade within the 3 years, say if SQL2012R2 or SQL version 12 comes out, you wont be able to as your licenses dont cover you and you will need to pay again for the newer licenses.



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Prices will vary depending on your agreement with MS and what plan you are on, eg Select aggreement, EA aggreement, Open Value, EAP etc etc.

Base price on NL without software assurance, at last check was $1793 per core, so that works out at a 1 off cost for 12 cores of $21516, but if you want to add things like software assurance into the mix the price will jump dramatically.

Also if the server is hosted co-lo your pretty much stuck with what the hosting provider says the cost is.

You would need to ask your vendor what the price includes as SA can be quite expensive. So if you dont need it, then dont buy it, but be warned that if you want to upgrade within the 3 years, say if SQL2012R2 or SQL version 12 comes out, you wont be able to as your licenses dont cover you and you will need to pay again for the newer licenses.


The price that I written before comes with SA(upgradable) option.
Even though the base price is 1793/core, most of all servers (basic and cheap ) currently in the market come with 20 or more cores, what blows up many projects budgets.
Some are saying that is good for consultants that will tune databases, but for how long?

Personally, I consider that this new price is quite expensive, specially in my third world country (Brazil).
Now I'm already facing several clients that are asking for alternative database solutions.
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I Am probably reading this wrong:, but since I never stay at a Holiday Inn Express, I don't have the required Expertise:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc645993%28v=SQL.110%29.aspx
but i don't see a # of connections limitation on SQL Express;

so I think you can use SQL Express until your database exceeds ten gig, or you want to use more than one CPU for processing;
So Am I right? can you install SQL Express for your web server to hit under the existing license structure?

there are other handicaps, like no jobs/Sql Agent etc of course....

Lowell

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Going off the base price list for Oracle, a processor license for Oracle Standard is $17,500 a processor. Now they detail that a processor is determined by the number of cores of the processor multiplied by a core processor licensing factor. Looking at the table that is currently 0.5 for Xeon chips. That means that each CPU you have will classify for 3 Oracle processor licenses, now as you have 2 CPU's you need 6. So thats a cost of $105000 right off the bat and it doesn't include SA. Add in SA its an extra $23100, unsure if thats a year, 1 off cost.

So still think SQL is expensive?

http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/technology-price-list-070617.pdf
http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/contracts/processor-core-factor-table-070634.pdf



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Oracle list pricing is deceptive. Most companies negotiate a discount greater than 75%.

Microsoft pricing is completely different. Discounts are not very deep, unless you enter into an EAP agreement, and then only some SKUs are discounted 40%.
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Also, you really can't compare the pricing of SQL Server to that of Oracle without adding all the features you get in SQL Server at no additional cost to the cost of getting Oracle with the comparable features.

Elsewise you are comparing apples and oranges.

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I am not very interested in the price difference between SQL Server and Oracle.

I need to deliver database performance and reliability to our Fund and stay within budget

Our annual SQL Licensing just went from under 200K to just over 600K.

Clearly this is not going to work for use and MSFT has just lost a customer that has had SQL Server for over 18 years.

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You can buy sql server 2012 standard licenses under server/cal licensing, but these prices seem to be based on core licensing. do you need core based licensing? the only time you would need core licensing with standard edition is when the amount of users/computers connecting either cannot be measured, or can be measured and is deemed more expensive than core licensing. So maybe suggest server/cal licensing as an alternative.
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We are looking at standard edition. Howerver, our current SQL 2008 servers are 40 core servers with 512 GB of memory.
Standard does not support;
Partitioned data.
More than 128GB
More than 4 sockets
Database Snapshots
Online Indexing
Parallel indexed operations
etc.
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