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The Next Generation


The Next Generation

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I find that interviews are an interesting measure of how many people are interested in computers and how many are actually skilled at it. Judging from the numbers, there's certainly no lack of interest in computers no matter the disipline and no matter the gender. But there's certaily, as you say, a shortage of qualified candidates. There are a lot of people interested especially in the money aspect but very few who want to spend the time really getting good at it.

Perhaps the next generation saw the time their parents put into IT and decided not to do the same. That works out kind of good for us old timers. There's no age discimination when you're in demand. :-)

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I agree with RBAR on this one. There's no age discrimination when you're in demand.

But Steve, there is something in this field that is an issue for the new, young, and those that are not hardened professionals. We who have been in the field for years know that there is a crust many build up over time and that an honest question asked of that crusty person asked with a desire to learn is often met with a crass snippy reply. This attitude makes it appear as if the person answering is angry for being bothered or you even having the brass to ask them a question. It causes those who are looking or trying it out to feel as if they are not appreciated, wanted, or needed at all.

We could attract more people into the field if many would be more approachable.

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"There's no shortage of technology workers, especially good ones."

The way this is worded, it implies there are lots of good tech workers available.

And Miles, I'm one the "gray-hairs." Smile
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and we need to attract more people to this field if they have an interest


Who are 'we' and how would that go? There are many aspects of this, if we educate more by lowering the standards, that's something few wants. If we get more interested and more gets educated and interested then it would lower the salaries for everyone since there are more people to chose between. Simple market economy, and this is the good part. Depending on interests, difficulty and salary you get a specific amount of students. Were the salaries to go up, you'd get more students searching to our business area.

In conclusion, I do not really see a problem. Thou I do agree that the gender balance could be better. But to expect females and males to think alike is to be naive.
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John, I do not know if it was this way when you started but there were not a lot of older IT folks back in the early 70's. Really the field was so young then that most were very young and for the most part mostly male. It has changed much, is changing now, and should change even more in the future.

To make the profession better we need all who are willing to participate in this great adventure. There is room for all who wish to contribute.

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I'm not sure "we" are the right people to be marketing this career. Maybe "we" are, but doesn't that sort of get into the whole guild concept (master/journeyman/apprentice, and so on)?

I think employers who hope to benefit from future generations of IT pros are the ones who really need to market it.

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Miles Neale (6/25/2012)

We could attract more people into the field if many would be more approachable.


Very true. I think this is one place where we as industry veterans don't do enough to attract others.

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Jeff Moden (6/24/2012)
I find that interviews are an interesting measure of how many people are interested in computers and how many are actually skilled at it. Judging from the numbers, there's certainly no lack of interest in computers no matter the disipline and no matter the gender. But there's certaily, as you say, a shortage of qualified candidates. There are a lot of people interested especially in the money aspect but very few who want to spend the time really getting good at it.

Perhaps the next generation saw the time their parents put into IT and decided not to do the same. That works out kind of good for us old timers. There's no age discimination when you're in demand. :-)


Interest in computers or computing? I think tons of people like the gadgetry aspect of computers and see the use, but are there that many interested in learning how they work and how to build new systems? I'm not sure there are lots.

I would agree there are plenty that don't want to work to get better. The same problem applies to doctors, but they manage to attract people willing to work. Shouldn't we?

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GSquared (6/25/2012)
I'm not sure "we" are the right people to be marketing this career. Maybe "we" are, but doesn't that sort of get into the whole guild concept (master/journeyman/apprentice, and so on)?

I think employers who hope to benefit from future generations of IT pros are the ones who really need to market it.


I'm not sure employers would ever do this well. I think we are the people in the industry, and yes, perhaps we ought to have some type of guild structure that we use to help bring along others into the industry.

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