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Kwex (7/22/2011)
Nice question! Got me researching on Alerts, Roles and Policies before I answered and got it right :-)


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Thomas Abraham (7/22/2011)
Excellent question. Thanks Jason!


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Nice question. Missed it and learned something. Thanks
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Britt Cluff (7/22/2011)
Thanks for the question.


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stewartc-708166 (7/22/2011)
This was quite a headscratcher.
thanks, Jason, learned something today.


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Good Question. Thanks! I over guessed it and should of stuck with my first thought.

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cengland0 (7/22/2011)
Hey, wait a second. According to:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb510667.aspx

Administering Policy-Based Management requires membership in the PolicyAdministratorRole role in the msdb database. This role has complete control of all policies on the system. This control includes creating and editing policies and conditions and enabling and disabling policies.

So tell me why did I get it wrong?


Two different facets of PBM. This question was in regards to alerting and the "minimium" security required to test an alert. Administering policies can be accomplished by membership in PolicyAdministratorRole, but to test alerts one must at a minimum have "Alter Trace" permissions.

Also, PolicyAdministratorRole does not appear to have Alter Trace permissions.

Try:

SELECT * FROM sys.fn_builtin_permissions ('server')

sp_helprotect NULL,'PolicyAdministratorRole'



Alter Trace is a "Server" class permission and is covered by the "Control Server" permission. So it may be misleading in the article to say that this role can fully administer PBM. What it really means is that this role can create and edit policies but not test alerts associated to those policies.



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sharath.chalamgari (7/22/2011)
i was not thinking about the least previlages and selected the sysadmin role. thanks for the good question.


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cfradenburg (7/22/2011)
Execute as user is made up? It actually does exist but my guess was that it couldn't be used when executing policies.

BOL reference:
Execute As (Transact-SQL)


Yeah - I worded that poorly. Made up for this question as simply an invalid choice.



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crafdenberg (7/22/2011)
Execute as user is made up? It actually does exist but my guess was that it couldn't be used when executing policies.

BOL reference:
Execute As (Transact-SQL)


Uh Oh... maybe I spoke to soon. I totaly missed the explination saying this was made up.
"Execute As" is definately a real thing! ;-)
"Execute As" is also definately not a permission! w00t

You might be able to use this to test the Policy Alert if the User supplied has the ALTER TRACE permission. I realy have no way to test at this time.... Cool
Did you try this crafdenberg? If you can post some working script it would prove your point, but it would not make this command a permission. Hehe


But since the question is asking for minimum permission "execute as" is not a permission and thus an invalid choice. 'Execute as' is an execution context.



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