oh man aaron, why did you do that? Now we hazard to leave out other names like dwain.c, SeanLange, jeff Moden, ChrisM@Work, and ofcourse others that don't immediately come to mind. Yes, there's a special group in here, and then ColdCoffee helped me a lot once too.

The key has been that those people who have trusted our motivation to learn and gave what we asked for, when we asked, and in a way that was digestable (baby spoons). I have grown tremendously as a result of those who helped here.

Yup, Phil.