November 8, 2018 at 1:27 pm
System details: SQL 2014 SQL Microsoft SQL Server 2014 (SP1-CU9-GDR) (KB3194722) - 12.0.4487.0 (X64) Developer Edition (64-bit) on Windows NT 6.3 <X64> (Build 9600: ) (Hypervisor) SP1
Process:
P.S. Yes, I am aware of Ola scripts and other solutions. This works (or should) for the basic process.
November 8, 2018 at 1:36 pm
ReReplaced - Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:27 PMSystem details: SQL 2014 SQL Microsoft SQL Server 2014 (SP1-CU9-GDR) (KB3194722) - 12.0.4487.0 (X64) Developer Edition (64-bit) on Windows NT 6.3 <X64> (Build 9600: ) (Hypervisor) SP1
- Make a basic backup maintenance plan. Save it. See the jobs created in SQL Agent. But,
- There's nothing in maintenance plan folder and,
- No records in sysmaintplan_plans or sysdbmaintplan_databases
Any clues on why this is happening?P.S. Yes, I am aware of Ola scripts and other solutions. This works (or should) for the basic process.
If you check the job itself and go to the first step for whatever subplan and select edit, what does it list for the package location on the package tab of the job?
Another thought and hopefully this isn't it but have you tried with another version of SSMS?
Sue
November 8, 2018 at 1:47 pm
November 8, 2018 at 1:52 pm
ReReplaced - Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:47 PMSue, Here's the screenshot - there's a few Maintenance plans listed, but not in the maintenance plan folder
Yes I saw that and the jobs. That's why I asked about the jobs and also trying another version of SSMS.
Sue
November 8, 2018 at 2:07 pm
Sue_H - Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:52 PMReReplaced - Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:47 PMSue, Here's the screenshot - there's a few Maintenance plans listed, but not in the maintenance plan folderYes I saw that and the jobs. That's why I asked about the jobs and also trying another version of SSMS.
Sue
Apologies for stating the obvious. I've tried SSMS 2014 on the VM, 2016 and 2008 on my workstation - the plans do not show in any of the SSMS consoles.
Edit: I built all on the VM server, in the 2014 SSMS console
November 8, 2018 at 2:14 pm
I know this, but I don't remember it!
I haven't used maintenance plans for a long time.
There's a glitch in the GUI of SSMS, and I THINK, if you rename the jobs, or remove a step, or something like that, the steps of the maintenance plan essentially disappear.
Here's what I suggest. Create the maintenance plan and do not change anything. Then re-open it and make whatever changes you need. I do remember that
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November 8, 2018 at 2:28 pm
Michael L John - Thursday, November 8, 2018 2:14 PMI know this, but I don't remember it!
I haven't used maintenance plans for a long time.There's a glitch in the GUI of SSMS, and I THINK, if you rename the jobs, or remove a step, or something like that, the steps of the maintenance plan essentially disappear.
Here's what I suggest. Create the maintenance plan and do not change anything. Then re-open it and make whatever changes you need. I do remember that
Thanks for the response John. I've heard similar, so I tried to eliminate as many of those variables as possible - this is a brand new MaintPlan I just built, basically for this test. Made the plan, saved it. refreshed the instance. Found the Sql Agent jobs, can see the maintenance plan (and others) when I look at the step. I can't see them in the GUI folder, and maybe I'm missing how to query them in MSDB, but it seems like they do not exist there either.
November 8, 2018 at 3:07 pm
rtrim(ltrim(' ')) - Thursday, November 8, 2018 2:28 PM. Found the Sql Agent jobs, can see the maintenance plan (and others) when I look at the step.
That was the other question I originally asked as I also remember some odd issue where they don't display in the GUI.
If you are a sysadmin, a couple of other things to try would be see if running SSMS doing Run As Administrator makes a difference. You may also want to try restarting the Agent service.
Sue
November 8, 2018 at 3:45 pm
Look in msdb.dbo.sysssispackages - this is where you find the SSIS packages that are loaded in the MSDB database. Not sure why they would not appear in the GUI - I have never seen that issue before...
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