Pardon me if I get slightly defensive that in one breath you say we can't code or make beer.

Pardon me if my joking didn't come across as such.

everything from a website comes via web services.

Spot on, just what I wrote in one of my previous posts as well.

I'm not sure what percentage of DBAs know what a...

But you didn't refrain.

* Sigh *

The Yanks still don't do irony. 😉

If you assume that all beers brewed in America are as crappy as the ones you get overseas...

IT these days looks more like a craft brewery where we keep changing the recipe: sometimes it works, and sometimes it's disgusting.

I'm tempted to make a comparison between American brewing...

It is management that says "Just make it work and ship it!". Most developers would extend development to get it right if given the choice.

I agree, assuming those developers are...

My concern is that a lot of IT shops, even those within large organizations that manage critical data, just don't "get" database engineering. For them a "database developer" is someone...

There's no shortage of [SQL] code that comes from frameworks and application templates, not to mention naive or ignorant developers.

It's not a complete solution, but whenever possible, I've been...

I was talking from a technical client viewpoint.

Yes, so I understood, Gaz! We tend to see the world through our own coloured set of glasses; I'm a business application development...

But the web services are still just client applications as far as the RDBMS is concerned.

But not a business application, per se. One advantage of using web services, rather...

Gary Varga (2/10/2015)

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GoofyGuy (2/10/2015)

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Come to Staffordshire and have oatcakes...you'd love 'em

Ah, but the Staffordshire oatcakes have more wheat flour than oats. Or so they taste to me.

If you want the...

Come to Staffordshire and have oatcakes...you'd love 'em

Ah, but the Staffordshire oatcakes have more wheat flour than oats. Or so they taste to me.

If you want the original product, tuck...

Work together. Hate the blamers. Not the players.

Well put, Gaz, thank you.

Steve Jones - SSC Editor (1/29/2015)

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GoofyGuy (1/28/2015)

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... there might be a legitimate complaint, but often we need to discard this one form as an outlier.

Chances are it seemed legitimate to...

... there might be a legitimate complaint, but often we need to discard this one form as an outlier.

Chances are it seemed legitimate to the person who wrote the complaint.

As...

mike.gallamore (1/26/2015)

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Or applications that sit on top of someone else's database: say health care systems, CRM etc. Often it becomes the job of the front end guys to quickly re-wire...