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jpowers (8/12/2009)
Personally, I would prefer to pay only for the channels I watch. I see no reason why they can't allow us to pay just for our preferred entertainment.


I'm sure everyone would like to reduce their costs by excluding the channels they never watch. The flip side is that some of those channels that you do want to watch might not exist any more, or they might charge more to receive than you have saved by not bundling. It all depends on whether you like the mainstream channels or something a little more obscure.
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jpowers (8/12/2009)
Personally, I would prefer to pay only for the channels I watch. I see no reason why they can't allow us to pay just for our preferred entertainment.


I'm sure everyone would like to reduce their costs by excluding the channels they never watch. The flip side is that some of those channels that you do want to watch might not exist any more, or they might charge more to receive than you have saved by not bundling. It all depends on whether you like the mainstream channels or something a little more obscure.


The other side of the coin is that it may actually be cheaper for the cable/satellite companies to get the extra channels many people may not watch than to not get them from the various content providers. Bundling may be more cost effective for them as well.

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Personally, I would prefer to pay only for the channels I watch. I see no reason why they can't allow us to pay just for our preferred entertainment.


I'm sure everyone would like to reduce their costs by excluding the channels they never watch. The flip side is that some of those channels that you do want to watch might not exist any more, or they might charge more to receive than you have saved by not bundling. It all depends on whether you like the mainstream channels or something a little more obscure.


But at least you'd be paying for value that you wanted, rather than fluff you did not, to the possible exclusion of what you do want.

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matt stockham (8/13/2009)
jpowers (8/12/2009)
Personally, I would prefer to pay only for the channels I watch. I see no reason why they can't allow us to pay just for our preferred entertainment.


I'm sure everyone would like to reduce their costs by excluding the channels they never watch. The flip side is that some of those channels that you do want to watch might not exist any more, or they might charge more to receive than you have saved by not bundling. It all depends on whether you like the mainstream channels or something a little more obscure.


You mean more than what I'm paying now for a bundle? In any case, let the market and tastes decide the fate of those individual channels. Right now, we get only those bundles where the cable companies have negotiated favorably. It's not based on demand. Last year, in my area, we had trouble getting pay-per-view NFL because of contract disputes between NFL and cable company though the demand was extremely high.
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And there's the rub, we don't get to negotiate things, or get more choice. We also get what is negotiated, which definitely isn't always a good thing for consumers.

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jpowers (8/12/2009)
Personally, I would prefer to pay only for the channels I watch. I see no reason why they can't allow us to pay just for our preferred entertainment.


I'm sure everyone would like to reduce their costs by excluding the channels they never watch. The flip side is that some of those channels that you do want to watch might not exist any more, or they might charge more to receive than you have saved by not bundling. It all depends on whether you like the mainstream channels or something a little more obscure.


But at least you'd be paying for value that you wanted, rather than fluff you did not, to the possible exclusion of what you do want.


Not necessarily...

Have you noticed the new trend, where on one and the same channel there is bundling? Take for example SyFy channel (named that way because English was unbundled in the educational package? Not sure...), which now not only hosts various gradations of Science Fiction and Fantasy series and movies, but also features Wrestling. How can I unbundle that...? ;-)
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matt stockham (8/13/2009)
jpowers (8/12/2009)
Personally, I would prefer to pay only for the channels I watch. I see no reason why they can't allow us to pay just for our preferred entertainment.


I'm sure everyone would like to reduce their costs by excluding the channels they never watch. The flip side is that some of those channels that you do want to watch might not exist any more, or they might charge more to receive than you have saved by not bundling. It all depends on whether you like the mainstream channels or something a little more obscure.


But at least you'd be paying for value that you wanted, rather than fluff you did not, to the possible exclusion of what you do want.


Not necessarily...

Have you noticed the new trend, where on one and the same channel there is bundling? Take for example SyFy channel (named that way because English was unbundled in the educational package? Not sure...), which now not only hosts various gradations of Science Fiction and Fantasy series and movies, but also features Wrestling. How can I unbundle that...? ;-)


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Ronald Bruintjes (8/17/2009)Have you noticed the new trend, where on one and the same channel there is bundling? Take for example SyFy channel (named that way because English was unbundled in the educational package? Not sure...), which now not only hosts various gradations of Science Fiction and Fantasy series and movies, but also features Wrestling. How can I unbundle that...? ;-)


Funny, but I happen to agree with their categorization of Wrestling into Fantasy.....;-)

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I believe most of the opinions against bundling, and the 'free-choice' perspective might have their sustained reasons. However, bundling allows a small member of a business model to take a proportional part of it. In the case of Golf Channel, it couldn't be possible for them to compete with ESPN nor FOX Sport, in example. Nevertheless, they have the part of the "pie" that they are entitled to; and of course, its TV technicians, IT technicians, journalists, and reporters, grow up everyday as professionals, and feed their families thanks to that.
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Heh... it doesn't matter if anything is bundled or not... you're still going to pay too much. :-D

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