SQL Clone
SQLServerCentral is supported by Redgate
 
Log in  ::  Register  ::  Not logged in
 
 
 


The Challenge: Litespeed v TDPSQL


The Challenge: Litespeed v TDPSQL

Author
Message
David Bird
David Bird
SSCommitted
SSCommitted (1.9K reputation)SSCommitted (1.9K reputation)SSCommitted (1.9K reputation)SSCommitted (1.9K reputation)SSCommitted (1.9K reputation)SSCommitted (1.9K reputation)SSCommitted (1.9K reputation)SSCommitted (1.9K reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 1850 Visits: 1300
Comments posted to this topic are about the content posted at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/columnists/dbird/thechallengelitespeedvtdpsql.asp

David Bird
colin.Leversuch-Roberts
colin.Leversuch-Roberts
SSC-Insane
SSC-Insane (21K reputation)SSC-Insane (21K reputation)SSC-Insane (21K reputation)SSC-Insane (21K reputation)SSC-Insane (21K reputation)SSC-Insane (21K reputation)SSC-Insane (21K reputation)SSC-Insane (21K reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 21985 Visits: 715

One slight error concerning Litespeed, there is a ( free ) utility which allows you to restore a litespeed backup on a a non litespeed server.

If you forget the GUI , I never make use of the gui for handling production backups anyway, and use the extended procs with scripts/procs then Litespeed is a dream to use.

The reality is that Litespeed does live up to the hype - a well recommended product - I wouldn't leave home without it



The GrumpyOldDBA
www.grumpyolddba.co.uk
http://sqlblogcasts.com/blogs/grumpyolddba/
David Jackson
David Jackson
SSCrazy
SSCrazy (2.4K reputation)SSCrazy (2.4K reputation)SSCrazy (2.4K reputation)SSCrazy (2.4K reputation)SSCrazy (2.4K reputation)SSCrazy (2.4K reputation)SSCrazy (2.4K reputation)SSCrazy (2.4K reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 2384 Visits: 2055

I used TSM at the last place, V5.2 I think, and I never could get the Admin boys round to setting up Transaction Log backups going.

I also found the GUI unreliable, so much so I wrote my own in Excel! If you are interested, you down load it here:

<shameless plug>http://glossopian.co.uk/pmwiki.php?n=Main.SQLTSMRestores</shameless plug>

Dave J




http://glossopian.co.uk/
"I don't know what I don't know."
MG-148046
MG-148046
SSCertifiable
SSCertifiable (5.3K reputation)SSCertifiable (5.3K reputation)SSCertifiable (5.3K reputation)SSCertifiable (5.3K reputation)SSCertifiable (5.3K reputation)SSCertifiable (5.3K reputation)SSCertifiable (5.3K reputation)SSCertifiable (5.3K reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 5269 Visits: 2894

At the time I tested Litespeed it had (or has) a Native Command Substitution that loads as a service and capture native SQL maintenance plans as they execute re-routing them through the Litespeed engine.

When we added up the compression (savings in disk space and tape), speed and NCS (with any other product we would have been faced with changing over 10,000 maintenance plans), it became a no-brainer.

Unfortunately, the company (a major play in the IT industry) was going through cost cutting and reorganization again so we never got approval to purchase Litespeed.



MG

"There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies."
Tony Hoare

"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Robert Sterbal
Robert Sterbal
Old Hand
Old Hand (361 reputation)Old Hand (361 reputation)Old Hand (361 reputation)Old Hand (361 reputation)Old Hand (361 reputation)Old Hand (361 reputation)Old Hand (361 reputation)Old Hand (361 reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 361 Visits: 1

It would have been nice to have added a pro and con for the native backup using SQL Server tools for your environment.

I was also left wondering why you didn't consider using network attached storage instead of the SAN for the backup files.

Thanks for an informative review.


Craig McNiel
Craig McNiel
Grasshopper
Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 17 Visits: 1
I'm wondering what about BMC SQL-Backtrack. I'm not a litespeed user but, I have looked at the product in the past. I have used TDP but, our shop uses SQL-Backtrack which I believe is a much older product than LiteSpeed and works with many different media managers. BMC also has a fully integrated product suite that covers Oracle/DB2 and Informix(I know but, I was listing) as well with integrated backup console. I think the auther shorted himself by not reviewing this product as well.
Kathi Kellenberger
Kathi Kellenberger
SSCarpal Tunnel
SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 4177 Visits: 347
I'm surprised that your LiteSpeed backups and restores took longer than native. We have seen better much performance with LiteSpeed.

Aunt Kathi
Linchpin People Teammate
SQL Server MVP
Author of Expert T-SQL Window Functions
JohnMarks
JohnMarks
Old Hand
Old Hand (373 reputation)Old Hand (373 reputation)Old Hand (373 reputation)Old Hand (373 reputation)Old Hand (373 reputation)Old Hand (373 reputation)Old Hand (373 reputation)Old Hand (373 reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 373 Visits: 569
I agree. Our LiteSpeed backups are much faster than the native backups.



rsellers
rsellers
Grasshopper
Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)Grasshopper (17 reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 17 Visits: 27
What about Red-Gate/ is that backup product competitive?



Kathi Kellenberger
Kathi Kellenberger
SSCarpal Tunnel
SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)SSCarpal Tunnel (4.2K reputation)

Group: General Forum Members
Points: 4177 Visits: 347
I reviewed it about a year ago: http://www.sqlservercentral.com/columnists/kKellenberger/sqlbackup30.asp . I thought it performed well.

Aunt Kathi
Linchpin People Teammate
SQL Server MVP
Author of Expert T-SQL Window Functions
Go


Permissions

You can't post new topics.
You can't post topic replies.
You can't post new polls.
You can't post replies to polls.
You can't edit your own topics.
You can't delete your own topics.
You can't edit other topics.
You can't delete other topics.
You can't edit your own posts.
You can't edit other posts.
You can't delete your own posts.
You can't delete other posts.
You can't post events.
You can't edit your own events.
You can't edit other events.
You can't delete your own events.
You can't delete other events.
You can't send private messages.
You can't send emails.
You can read topics.
You can't vote in polls.
You can't upload attachments.
You can download attachments.
You can't post HTML code.
You can't edit HTML code.
You can't post IFCode.
You can't post JavaScript.
You can post emoticons.
You can't post or upload images.

Select a forum







































































































































































SQLServerCentral


Search