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homebrew01 (8/14/2013)
Is 3 hour data loss acceptable for the business ? I prefer log backups every 15 or 20 minutes.

I run a server side trace 24/7 on my production server so that I can go back in time to troubleshoot problems or see what was running at a particular time. There are 3rd party tools such as Idera's Compliance Manager that can be set up to audit SQL activity.


I am not asked for Server side trace.. just asked me to take backup. but will it help.. will that provide me data about who did what & what ahppened w00t

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OnlyOneRJ (8/14/2013)
will that provide me data about who did what & what ahppened w00t


No.

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OnlyOneRJ
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GilaMonster (8/14/2013)
OnlyOneRJ (8/14/2013)
will that provide me data about who did what & what ahppened w00t


No.


Gail, Please suggest a easy plan to do where in trace n audit is not involved... only Log backup's or anything else... please

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Can't, not with your set of restrictions. You're insisting that the easiest solution not be used and that a feature that has nothing to do with audits be used instead.

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OnlyOneRJ (8/14/2013)
homebrew01 (8/14/2013)
Is 3 hour data loss acceptable for the business ? I prefer log backups every 15 or 20 minutes.

I run a server side trace 24/7 on my production server so that I can go back in time to troubleshoot problems or see what was running at a particular time. There are 3rd party tools such as Idera's Compliance Manager that can be set up to audit SQL activity.


I am not asked for Server side trace.. just asked me to take backup. but will it help.. will that provide me data about who did what & what ahppened w00t


A trace or monitoring tool may help you troubleshoot the NEXT problem, but not the current one. Taking regular transaction log backups may help you recover lost data NEXT time.



OnlyOneRJ
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Thanks homeBrew..

Gail - Will APEX SQL ttol help me to read Log files which are backed up every 3 hours..

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OnlyOneRJ (8/16/2013)
Will APEX SQL ttol help me to read Log files which are backed up every 3 hours..


I don't have any experience with their tool, I just googled a bit and came on their website.

According to the information on the website, it (ApexSQL LOG) can read the LOG-file and get audit information out of it. They also have a specific SQL Audit tool (ApexSQL Audit). Why don't you just contact them and ask for more information, a demonstration and/or use the trial version. They can tell you much more about the product(s) then we can on this forum.

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But remember: the LOG backups are primarily for recovering lost data. It is not intended to do auditing. There are other features and tools to do auditing.

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OnlyOneRJ (8/16/2013)
Gail - Will APEX SQL ttol help me to read Log files which are backed up every 3 hours..


Probably, but it's a damn expensive app. Was over $1000 per licence last time I checked

Why are you insisting on using the wrong tool for the job here? Log backups are NOT for auditing purposes. If it's some managerial decree, please go and explain to said manager that while possible what he's asking is going to be expensive, painful and complex at best and that there are way better solutions for auditing.

Gail Shaw
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OnlyOneRJ
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Gail, now they have come up with new need..
They dont want to know who has deleted the records.. they just want to recover the data which gets deleted if incase..

Like if data gets deleted after 2 hours then using log backup they want that data to be recovered ... will it be possible???

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