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Erland Sommarskog
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I came over here when the NNTP bridge for the MSDN forums stopped working, and I've only been here for a couple of weeks. Still I have some reflections.

Aren't there a wee bit too many forums? There is both June and a July CTP forum for SQL 2008. Isn't time to retire these forums? And should there really be secutity forum for SQL 2008 and for for SQL 2005? It's also interesting to notice that there are only two forums for SQL 2012, and with a moderte amount of traffic. Has SQL 2012 really caught on so badly? Or is it that just until a few days ago the SQL 2008 forums were at the top, so most traffic goes to SQL 2008 General?

There is also a group of general forums, not tied to versions, but they are quite far down the list and not very discoverable. I have yet to visit anyone of them. But maybe they should be promoted and merged with the version-speciofic ones?

While I'm at it, I would really hope that the options for date display to be extended. Currently there are couple of options, all equally useless. What's wrong with offering ISO format and a 24-hour clock? Since Red Gate is a British company one could at least think that were would be DD/MM/YYYY, but no.

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Welcome Erland,

Agreed the CTP-forums had their time now.

About sql 2012, it is fairly new, runs best (?) on windows 2012 (also new) and above all had its licensing changed (cores instead of cpu's) .
R2 (2014) versions are expected this year(?)

Security has a proper place with its quite defined scope of expertise in my opinion.
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Jo Pattyn (2013-07-15)
Welcome Erland,
About sql 2012, it is fairly new


It's been out for over a year...

and above all had its licensing changed (cores instead of cpu's)


Yes, the changed licensing may be part of the deal. The fact there is not an abundance of new great features may also matter. (Well, there is one: WINDOW FUNCTIONS!)

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Erland Sommarskog (7/15/2013)
I came over here when the NNTP bridge for the MSDN forums stopped working, and I've only been here for a couple of weeks. Still I have some reflections.

Aren't there a wee bit too many forums? There is both June and a July CTP forum for SQL 2008. Isn't time to retire these forums? And should there really be secutity forum for SQL 2008 and for for SQL 2005? It's also interesting to notice that there are only two forums for SQL 2012, and with a moderte amount of traffic. Has SQL 2012 really caught on so badly? Or is it that just until a few days ago the SQL 2008 forums were at the top, so most traffic goes to SQL 2008 General?

There is also a group of general forums, not tied to versions, but they are quite far down the list and not very discoverable. I have yet to visit anyone of them. But maybe they should be promoted and merged with the version-speciofic ones?

While I'm at it, I would really hope that the options for date display to be extended. Currently there are couple of options, all equally useless. What's wrong with offering ISO format and a 24-hour clock? Since Red Gate is a British company one could at least think that were would be DD/MM/YYYY, but no.


The SQL Server 2008 forums are the most popular for the moment, probably because they have been at the top of the list for a very long time. A lof of people ask their questions there, even it is possible not related to SQL Server 2008. Also, in reality I think SQL Server 2008 still has a significantly market share, so a lot of people have issues with that environment.
SQL Server 2012 was buried somewhere down the list and didn't really get the attention it deserved.

To me, it doesn't really matter as I don't visit the forums seperately. I use the search for the recent posts of the day and I glance over the results to see if there's anything interesting in it.



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Erland Sommarskog (7/15/2013)


The fact there is not an abundance of new great features may also matter. (Well, there is one: WINDOW FUNCTIONS!)


You must be joking right? :-)

SSIS is completely renewed, introduction of SSAS tabular and Power View, columnstore indexes, AlwaysOn Availability Groups, ...



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SSIS is completely renewed, introduction of SSAS tabular and Power View, columnstore indexes, AlwaysOn Availability Groups, ...


OK, there is try_convert() too. As for improvements to SSIS or SSAS, I've yet to learn them. Columnstore index is kind of cool, but I'm an OLTP guy so I've little use for them. Yes, AG is good. But, really, the only thing in SQL 2012 that makes me drool is the window functions.

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SSIS is completely renewed, introduction of SSAS tabular and Power View, columnstore indexes, AlwaysOn Availability Groups, ...


OK, there is try_convert() too. As for improvements to SSIS or SSAS, I've yet to learn them. Columnstore index is kind of cool, but I'm an OLTP guy so I've little use for them. Yes, AG is good. But, really, the only thing in SQL 2012 that makes me drool is the window functions.


The windowing functions are pretty neat :-) I recently used some in a project and they really shorten the code.



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ERLAND!

Welcome to the forums at SSC.

I think that what you're seeing is a result of Steve experimenting over time with the structures of the forums. But, I don't think he goes back and cleans up. That might be something that should happen (somehow, if it's possible). But, I agree. I'd like to see a bunch of the older forums rolled up in order to clean up the list and absolutely see some of the sexier, newer, more relevant technologies bubble to the top. I like that we have 2014 at the top now.

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