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The Best Programmers


The Best Programmers

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Steve Jones
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Gary Varga
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I struggled to find somewhere as interested in doing a thoroughly decent job of developing quality software that I ended up contracting (year 15 now). The irony was that my first contract was with a company that made me more valued than at any of my employers (and I was valued lower than their permanent staff - a good thing as that is how it is supposed to be). I guess I am a bit of an evangelist at times but sometimes have to be pragmatic.

On the other hand, I see great developers forced to work in ways they know will cause more problems by more ambitious colleagues who have clawed their way into management (often without skill and training). Even worse, these managers know they need the "great developers" where they are and block any movement or internal opportunities. It is a shame and it keeps these people where they are but as soon as they no longer think it is worth it I tend to find that nothing will stop them leaving.

Gaz

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I have stayed at my current job longer than I ever have before. I have 30+ years in the industry and have had a variety of employers. What I like about my current employer is that I get opportunities to try new things. I have never done website work before. Our web guy left and I volunteered to do it. I don't program the website. We have software that I use to make changes. But, it is different and it is exciting to me.

The least amount of time I have worked somewhere is when I had been pigeonholed into one role such as maintenance programming.

Tom
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There are other reasons for not moving on from a job. My main reason is that I absolutely hate looking for new jobs--I don't like the disruption, I never get on well at interviews; frankly, I could be the best programmer in the world (which I'm not--second best at most :-)) and I'd still stay in a job until I had really, really good reasons for leaving it.
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paul.knibbs (6/18/2013)
There are other reasons for not moving on from a job. My main reason is that I absolutely hate looking for new jobs--I don't like the disruption, I never get on well at interviews; frankly, I could be the best programmer in the world (which I'm not--second best at most :-)) and I'd still stay in a job until I had really, really good reasons for leaving it.


I also loathe everything about job searches, up to and including interviewing, and have vowed to never again to do it (famous last words...). But, I've been at my company for 15 years now, and it remains an interesting place to work. The point in the editorial about people is very important, I think. Lousy co-workers can ruin ANYTHING, and great co-workers can make nearly all difficult situations bearable, and sometimes even fun.



Gary Varga
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DavidL (6/18/2013)
paul.knibbs (6/18/2013)
There are other reasons for not moving on from a job. My main reason is that I absolutely hate looking for new jobs--I don't like the disruption, I never get on well at interviews; frankly, I could be the best programmer in the world (which I'm not--second best at most :-)) and I'd still stay in a job until I had really, really good reasons for leaving it.


I also loathe everything about job searches, up to and including interviewing, and have vowed to never again to do it (famous last words...). But, I've been at my company for 15 years now, and it remains an interesting place to work. The point in the editorial about people is very important, I think. Lousy co-workers can ruin ANYTHING, and great co-workers can make nearly all difficult situations bearable, and sometimes even fun.


I hate interviews too but as a freelancer I have volunteered myself to a career full of them :-S

Gaz

-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
Kingston Dhasian
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The article referenced in the editorial is just too good.
I was simply smiling through the article wondering how can an article be so accurate.


Kingston Dhasian

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Ralph Hightower
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I'd have to agree: having a great job where the people suck, would suck.
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