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Very large table - performance issues


Very large table - performance issues

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Abu Dina
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We have a tall table that contains 2.6 billion rows

Table structure:



The application which uses this table has been running slow for the last couple of days and it seems to have happened following the addition of about 400 million rows last weekend.

I think it's because of the index fragmentation although I'm not sure how to check if this the case without affecting the application?

So my first question is, how do I check to see if the indexes are fragmented and whether the stats need updating on such a large table?

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SELECT  
database_id, object_name(object_id), object_id, index_id, partition_number, index_type_desc,
alloc_unit_type_desc, index_depth,
index_level, avg_fragmentation_in_percent, fragment_count, avg_fragment_size_in_pages, page_count,
avg_page_space_used_in_percent, record_count, ghost_record_count, version_ghost_record_count, min_record_size_in_bytes,
max_record_size_in_bytes, avg_record_size_in_bytes, forwarded_record_count
FROM
sys.dm_db_index_physical_stats
( 5, NULL, NULL, NULL, 'DETAILED' )
where object_name(object_id) = 'TableName'



Try this , if avg_fragmentation_in_percent is more than 30 then it is index fragmentation.

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Durai Nagarajan
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Index fragmentation is quite unlikely to cause sudden slow performance. Index fragmentation is in fact only a concern when you're doing large range scans from disk.

Now statistics, that's a lot more likely to be the problem. Try a stats update with fullscan (yes, it'll take a while) and see if that helps.

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Thanks to you both.

Not sure why I said index fragmentation. When my colleague mentioned it to me, the first thing I asked him was about the stats lol.
Was thinking along the lines of 400 million new rows = out of date stats = inappropriate execution plans for the queries etc...

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yeah i would have thought of statistics as the issue as well;
ok we know it takes 20% of the rows int he table , + 500 rows to trigger auto updates of statistics.

so if you insert 400M rows, is that 400M out of 3000M (13.33 % affected?) or is that 400M of 2600M rows that were already there?(15.38 % affected?)

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The 2.6 billion total is after the insert of the 400 million.

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Abu Dina (5/21/2013)
The 2.6 billion total is after the insert of the 400 million.


cool to have such big table, I'm actually a bit jealous, because it presents a lot more opportunities for learning when fiddling with lots of data. lots of chances to increase experience in tuning, maintenance, etc.

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The 2.6 billion total is after the insert of the 400 million.


cool to have such big table, I'm actually a bit jealous, because it presents a lot more opportunities for learning when fiddling with lots of data. lots of chances to increase experience in tuning, maintenance, etc.


To be honest a lot of the time I feel out of my depth but as you say, it's a great opportunity to learn new skills in the two key areas you mentioned.

My boss (who owns half the company) and an accomplished developer herself ran a delete statement (this was last month).... It took the whole application down for 5 days!

Oh and it's the first time I got to use COUNT_BIG :-P

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I have another question. Any implications running DBCC SHOW_STATISTICS on a live system with this big table?

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No. Show statistics doesn't touch the table

Gail Shaw
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