If you look on the Internet you can still find Braindumps that allow you to memorize these tests, and as long as they are available out there people are going to use them and probably braindump about 90% of what they memorized (hence the name) after they have taken the test. As long as this is the case, the certs are compromised in my opinion, and not worth as much in the REAL world. Like I said before on this topic, I knew a certified person in SQL Server and she could not even setup permisions on a login properly. Turns out she braindumped the cert. Very sad, and that hurts all of the people that study very hard to pass these tests the right way, because they have that stigma attached to them by a lot of people in the business. TravisDBA.