I agreed there were many lazy developers around. Many developers just knew a few basic commands and somehow they could do their jobs. They used the same template to write their procedures over and over again instead of looking for some good ways of doing things. Even when other developers showed them how to do things better, they refused to learn either due to laziness or they had a big ego. In my case I felt some of my male co-workers especially had a hard time to listen to a female developer. :hehe: