jfogel (7/12/2013)
Just stop.You wrote:
"Indeed you're not reading it write if you think that's what it says (it doesn't say that)."
And I asked if I read it write or right. You are acting so uppity and saying people need to comprehend but you misuse words and speak in circles. Give it a rest. Go play an instrument, have a beer or anything other than continue to post in this thread.
I spelled one word wrong! and acknowledged it!!
Vila Restal (7/12/2013)
like I made a mistake writing 'write' instead of 'right'
and you then say all that above? (you explain your 'joke'? really?!!!)
So I'm misusing words? (plural)?!
Give it a rest?!!
No, you sir owe me an apology for misquoting me. Accusing me of saying that all mistakes are made by DBAs (or had you forgotten about that).
Acting so uppity? Uppity is not the word and I am not acting. I am annoyed at what you said. It is a basic logical fallacy to take what I said and equate it to "it's always DBAs that make mistakes". Then you pick up on a spelling mistake as an oh so witty comeback. I'd expect that on YouTube comments. Not here.
You accused me of an opinion and you were wrong. I explained that you were wrong. And now you say I'm being uppity. You would be too.
Why did you bother to post if you don't care about the topic?
As it happens I do care about the topic and I think people reading this might be wanting some thoughts about hiring DBAs: what makes a good DBA and what doesn't. If I'm speaking in circles it's because a couple of people are (I half suspect deliberately) not comprehending what I'm saying (and I'm not using long words or making particularly complicated so it's getting quite frustrating).
My point was and is:
DBAs are more like sound engineers than guitarists. That is not an insult to DBAs or sound engineers. Both perform vital difficult roles that need lots of training and experience to be any good at. A band with a bad sound engineer will sound like a swarm of hornets to the audience no matter how good musicians they are. Database developers (coders) will produce a shockingly unreliable and poorly performing product for the customer if they don't have a good DBA no matter how good they are at their job.
I was then picked up on that point as talking about flat-file DBAs only. And that was wrong. That's not what I meant and it came from a basic misunderstanding of what a sound engineer does. (Regarding it as a lowly role - less than a guitarist, which it isn't.)
By way of explaining why DBAs are and should remain behind the scenes (like a sound engineer) I gave a link to an example of a DBA making a name for himself in the company where he works. (I.e. by screwing up and getting fired.)
You then chipped in suggesting that that means I think DBAs are the only ones that make mistakes, which of course, to anyone with a basic grasp of logic, it doesn't.
That was annoying. I expect you know that's not what I meant or what it proves. But, just in case you didn't, I explained that to you.
You then came back with your oh so witty comment about a misspelled word.
That is not speaking in circles. I am trying to stay on topic here and you are trying to annoy me.
If you disagree with what I'm saying then please do but make sure you understand what I'm saying (including what a sound engineer does and how difficult and vital that work is) and what I'm not saying (that a DBAs job is easy or unimportant or they are the only ones who make mistakes).
Otherwise, of course you can make comments about the article irrespective of what I've said. But if you're going to comment on what I've said please keep it on topic and respectful.
Misquoting me and trying to make witty put downs is not appropriate for this discussion or forum and I did neither of those to you or anyone else so I don't see why you are doing that.