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Lynn Pettis (6/25/2014)
Really? Just because SQL Server setup defaults to a CI collation that makes it the "DEFAULT" collation?

That would be my guess. You want to lean toward "least surprise" if you in fact don't actually check, and since the question really didn't allow the check, CI it is.
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Just saw a post (on another site) that the person had part of a query list but no quest was asked. Someone posted "What is your question?" and the post back "It's in my original post." It was not.


That happens here too. And developers are always whingeing that the specs they are given don't contain sufficient information to complete the task. Gaaah!


Right.
Or when you propose a solution and they go like "Aaaah yes. But actually in my real-life scenario I need to do it like this..."


That's why we pass the crystal ball around. But it seems somebody has been hogging it of late.


Yeah sorry, I dropped it. It's in the shop for repairs.


Likely story. Now we know how you are able to zip through the forums so fast.
Yeah, really. When it gets out of the shop, I'd like to be added to the rotation. I'll even volunteer do the testing to make sure it still works well.
Ok, I'll bite, what's your baseline for the crystal ball tests?


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Just saw a post (on another site) that the person had part of a query list but no quest was asked. Someone posted "What is your question?" and the post back "It's in my original post." It was not.


That happens here too. And developers are always whingeing that the specs they are given don't contain sufficient information to complete the task. Gaaah!


Right.
Or when you propose a solution and they go like "Aaaah yes. But actually in my real-life scenario I need to do it like this..."


That's why we pass the crystal ball around. But it seems somebody has been hogging it of late.


Yeah sorry, I dropped it. It's in the shop for repairs.


Likely story. Now we know how you are able to zip through the forums so fast.
Yeah, really. When it gets out of the shop, I'd like to be added to the rotation. I'll even volunteer do the testing to make sure it still works well.


Apparently Craig has it (in his other pants):
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1586022-2799-1.aspx

Ah hah! Now all he has to do is find his pants. It's time for a rotation!




Cute!


It's from the Lego Movie. You probably haven't had much chance to keep up with that sort of stuff. As usual though, about the only movies worth seeing are the kids ones. Thankfully we have 2 little ones so we have an excuse.
Except that movie was definitely not for kids.


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Yeah, really. When it gets out of the shop, I'd like to be added to the rotation. I'll even volunteer do the testing to make sure it still works well.
Ok, I'll bite, what's your baseline for the crystal ball tests?


The unit tests should be interesting to see.
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Lynn Pettis (6/25/2014)
Really? Just because SQL Server setup defaults to a CI collation that makes it the "DEFAULT" collation?

I give up.


I gotta say "Yes." to that one, Lynn. Default = "What is setup with the minimum input from the user/installer", at least to me.



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Really? Just because SQL Server setup defaults to a CI collation that makes it the "DEFAULT" collation?

I give up.


I gotta say "Yes." to that one, Lynn. Default = "What is setup with the minimum input from the user/installer", at least to me.


Not seeing the disconnect.

Like Kraig said, it boils down to minimal effort from person setting it up.





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Just saw a post (on another site) that the person had part of a query list but no quest was asked. Someone posted "What is your question?" and the post back "It's in my original post." It was not.


That happens here too. And developers are always whingeing that the specs they are given don't contain sufficient information to complete the task. Gaaah!


Right.
Or when you propose a solution and they go like "Aaaah yes. But actually in my real-life scenario I need to do it like this..."


That's why we pass the crystal ball around. But it seems somebody has been hogging it of late.


Yeah sorry, I dropped it. It's in the shop for repairs.


Likely story. Now we know how you are able to zip through the forums so fast.
Yeah, really. When it gets out of the shop, I'd like to be added to the rotation. I'll even volunteer do the testing to make sure it still works well.


Apparently Craig has it (in his other pants):
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1586022-2799-1.aspx

Ah hah! Now all he has to do is find his pants. It's time for a rotation!




Cute!


It's from the Lego Movie. You probably haven't had much chance to keep up with that sort of stuff. As usual though, about the only movies worth seeing are the kids ones. Thankfully we have 2 little ones so we have an excuse.
Except that movie was definitely not for kids.


Agreed. My two boys love it since it is all Legos but otherwise it is for adults.


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Just saw a post (on another site) that the person had part of a query list but no quest was asked. Someone posted "What is your question?" and the post back "It's in my original post." It was not.


That happens here too. And developers are always whingeing that the specs they are given don't contain sufficient information to complete the task. Gaaah!


Right.
Or when you propose a solution and they go like "Aaaah yes. But actually in my real-life scenario I need to do it like this..."


That's why we pass the crystal ball around. But it seems somebody has been hogging it of late.


Yeah sorry, I dropped it. It's in the shop for repairs.


Likely story. Now we know how you are able to zip through the forums so fast.
Yeah, really. When it gets out of the shop, I'd like to be added to the rotation. I'll even volunteer do the testing to make sure it still works well.


Apparently Craig has it (in his other pants):
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1586022-2799-1.aspx

Ah hah! Now all he has to do is find his pants. It's time for a rotation!




Cute!


It's from the Lego Movie. You probably haven't had much chance to keep up with that sort of stuff. As usual though, about the only movies worth seeing are the kids ones. Thankfully we have 2 little ones so we have an excuse.

After seeing what Lynn was doing with his mystic abillities of long range mind reading, I figured I'd attempt my own mystic arts... so I made sure I got put into the front of the list via my psyonic abilities. However, I apparently blew the memory fuse when I did that...

...I've once again lost my pants. Usually it's just my shirt at the casino, but my pants after 2 weeks without a day off apparently took a hike without me.

At least my clothing is getting exercise.


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Really? Just because SQL Server setup defaults to a CI collation that makes it the "DEFAULT" collation?

I give up.


Ha! Well, yeah, I suppose I would refer to a default value as the default. Guilty.


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Just saw a post (on another site) that the person had part of a query list but no quest was asked. Someone posted "What is your question?" and the post back "It's in my original post." It was not.


That happens here too. And developers are always whingeing that the specs they are given don't contain sufficient information to complete the task. Gaaah!


Right.
Or when you propose a solution and they go like "Aaaah yes. But actually in my real-life scenario I need to do it like this..."


That's why we pass the crystal ball around. But it seems somebody has been hogging it of late.


Yeah sorry, I dropped it. It's in the shop for repairs.


Likely story. Now we know how you are able to zip through the forums so fast.
Yeah, really. When it gets out of the shop, I'd like to be added to the rotation. I'll even volunteer do the testing to make sure it still works well.


Apparently Craig has it (in his other pants):
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1586022-2799-1.aspx

Ah hah! Now all he has to do is find his pants. It's time for a rotation!




Cute!


It's from the Lego Movie. You probably haven't had much chance to keep up with that sort of stuff. As usual though, about the only movies worth seeing are the kids ones. Thankfully we have 2 little ones so we have an excuse.

After seeing what Lynn was doing with his mystic abillities of long range mind reading, I figured I'd attempt my own mystic arts... so I made sure I got put into the front of the list via my psyonic abilities. However, I apparently blew the memory fuse when I did that...

...I've once again lost my pants. Usually it's just my shirt at the casino, but my pants after 2 weeks without a day off apparently took a hike without me.

At least my clothing is getting exercise.


If you didn't know already, you have your own fanclub

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1586080-61-1.aspx

I missed that earlier, apparently...

The idea of having a fanclub is odd to me. Not disturbing, just odd.



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