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Posted Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:19 PM


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dont you think DR plan is also part of business continuity? Which business will plan DR without considering business continuity

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Posted Friday, December 14, 2012 6:56 AM
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DR + BCP = Success



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Posted Friday, December 14, 2012 7:19 AM
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All businesses should plan for DR and BC, but the weekly topic is DR and this is all about BC. I would thing SQL Server Central would know the difference. Even Steve's original story to start it is BC.
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Which original story? Losing power in a data center? That's a DR, technology related issue.

Companies trying to be sure their data centers are running after hurricane Sandy, that's DR. There's a BC component to that, but the piece we are talking about here, with people working in technology, is the technology end of a disaster, which is usually known as DR.

If you want to be pedantic about it and dig into what is BC and what is DR, that's fine, but I think that's a bit of a waste of time.







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Posted Friday, December 14, 2012 8:43 AM
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Right Sandy is DR. None of your stories are, no matter what scewy name you give someone that expects to read about DR when advertised Steve.
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Posted Friday, December 14, 2012 8:50 AM
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So anyone else have experienced an actual DR? I would like to here more from them. What did they learn? That doesn't mean just like a Sandy situation but also like a server(s) have died for some reason, prolong power outage, A/C down, etc.

I've help out with DR in many situations that are not weather related. Even worked on a DR for a company that their building was damage from an earthquake. It didn't fall but no one was allowed in for months. That to me is also a DR situation.

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Posted Friday, December 14, 2012 10:17 AM
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My point exactly Rudy, I was excited to hear about DR, but instead it is BC and all of us can tell about servers and storage blowing up.
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Posted Friday, December 14, 2012 11:14 AM
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Well, like I mentioned before it appears that lots of people for get about DR situations where you need to rebuild basically everything from scratch. I would be interesting to see a poll on how many people have bare metal build documentation and if it's up to date.

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Posted Friday, December 14, 2012 11:14 AM


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(grins a sly grin) By the way - there is one more part called "the application" I never restore them myself but I hear tell that a database with out web server, app server and such is not useful.
I disagree (smiles) I use the database all day long without every having to log in and use the app.

Seriously, (sigh) there is more to the system than just the database.
1) Web and app servers
2) AD servers for authentication. SA works fine for me but .....
3) Tape/Disk backup servers to backup my backups.
4) Routers, and other hardware.
5) Bathroom and vending machines. I've been surprised at how many DR discussions about DR sites never, *never* discuss security, bathrooms, vending machines or where we will live/stay. Some how everyone will go to the DR site and laundry, living, etc will just take care of itself.
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Posted Friday, December 14, 2012 11:21 AM
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I agree but the app systems (web, routers, networking, apps, bathrooms) are not "really" the job of the DBA. If you are responsible for those things then you need to document that too.

Most companies have network teams, development teams, etc. that would manage those parts of the disaster. If your a DBA with those responibilities then I hope your well paid.

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