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Posted Friday, May 23, 2014 8:10 AM


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Does anybody else feel a bit frustrated when there is no response from the OP after you post an answer to a question? I know that this is a global site and people work all kinds of hours and shifts but it would be nice to have had some kind of reply after a couple of days. Even if this reply is, 'what you suggested doesn't work. Have you got any other ideas?' That would be better than nothing. I'd like to think that the OP hasn't come back because my answer was exactly what they wanted and nothing further needed to be said, in this case a thank you would be appreciated.


Better ignored than argued with incorrectly. Or worse, the "yeah, but we can't change anything, anywhere, anytime, now how do I fix it" responses.
You sure hit the nail on the head there. "But why is a GUID bigger than an integer?"


Cause the integer fragments more when called nonsequentially or something.


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Posted Friday, May 23, 2014 8:15 AM
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Does anybody else feel a bit frustrated when there is no response from the OP after you post an answer to a question? I know that this is a global site and people work all kinds of hours and shifts but it would be nice to have had some kind of reply after a couple of days. Even if this reply is, 'what you suggested doesn't work. Have you got any other ideas?' That would be better than nothing. I'd like to think that the OP hasn't come back because my answer was exactly what they wanted and nothing further needed to be said, in this case a thank you would be appreciated.


It is frustrating, but a sad part of our daily routines here at SSC
Fortunately there is also a number of OPs who communicate their gratitude, and that makes it all worthwhile.
I agree completely. I find I also learn a lot by reading the solutions others have posted. There's some interesting stuff out there I haven't played with at all.


I suppose it's because I'm only now becoming confident enough to answer questions posed by others that I find it a bit frustrating when I don't get a reply. It would be good to have somebody say 'it worked, thank you' so I know I was right. Equally, if it didn't work I'd be able to go back and look again at what I did.

Ed, you are definitely right about the other answers. Every day I see things that I want to explore.


I've always said that you won't find a better source of real life problem to solve anywhere in the world. Unfortunately, that also means dealing with real life people. As in real life, some are idiots, some are rude, some are "ring knockers", some are bullies, some are just unable to say "thanks" and, many times, it's just because of cultural differences. There are also people that are flat out wrong. While that may seem like a bad thing, it's absolutely not because that's what we all deal with every day at work. If you have the right attitude (it sometimes IS a thankless job but we still do things right), it'll actually make you stronger and a better person at work and maybe even make it so you enjoy your work more. That's not to say that all people are like that and, what I've personally found, is that most people are appreciative of any help they can get.

The side bar to it all (and I never expect it... it just seems to happen) is that you'll get back much more than you could ever put into answering such questions. You've not only given yourself an excuse to possibly research and solve a real life problem you may not have seen before, you'll sharpen your skills in code and in effectively communicating with others, learn from the posting of others where you may not have even looked at such a problem before, and make some incredible professional and personal friendships that will actually last you a lifetime. Done right, you'll also be building your "brand" (which Steve Jones will remind us is incredibly important for our careers) and, someday in the future during a phone interview for a new job, you'll be able to say "Google me" with a great amount of pride. The key is to not let that pride go to your head on the boards or at work. Humility, knowledge, skill (and, yes, they are different), the "right attitude", and the ability to effectively communicate methods and techniques are things that I look for when I interview people for senior positions and I believe that's the underlying criteria that most good employers look for in candidates.

Ah... sorry... didn't mean to get on the soapbox about all that but it is what I believe and I also believe that most of the heavy hitters on this and other forums are made of the same stuff.

As "Red-Green" would say, "We're all in this together and I'm pullin' for ya."
Very well put on several points, Jeff. And you're right. On another note, why am I not surprised that you know what "quando omni flunkus moritaki" is?



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Posted Friday, May 23, 2014 8:21 AM


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Does anybody else feel a bit frustrated when there is no response from the OP after you post an answer to a question? I know that this is a global site and people work all kinds of hours and shifts but it would be nice to have had some kind of reply after a couple of days. Even if this reply is, 'what you suggested doesn't work. Have you got any other ideas?' That would be better than nothing. I'd like to think that the OP hasn't come back because my answer was exactly what they wanted and nothing further needed to be said, in this case a thank you would be appreciated.


It is frustrating, but a sad part of our daily routines here at SSC
Fortunately there is also a number of OPs who communicate their gratitude, and that makes it all worthwhile.
I agree completely. I find I also learn a lot by reading the solutions others have posted. There's some interesting stuff out there I haven't played with at all.


I suppose it's because I'm only now becoming confident enough to answer questions posed by others that I find it a bit frustrating when I don't get a reply. It would be good to have somebody say 'it worked, thank you' so I know I was right. Equally, if it didn't work I'd be able to go back and look again at what I did.

Ed, you are definitely right about the other answers. Every day I see things that I want to explore.


I've always said that you won't find a better source of real life problem to solve anywhere in the world. Unfortunately, that also means dealing with real life people. As in real life, some are idiots, some are rude, some are "ring knockers", some are bullies, some are just unable to say "thanks" and, many times, it's just because of cultural differences. There are also people that are flat out wrong. While that may seem like a bad thing, it's absolutely not because that's what we all deal with every day at work. If you have the right attitude (it sometimes IS a thankless job but we still do things right), it'll actually make you stronger and a better person at work and maybe even make it so you enjoy your work more. That's not to say that all people are like that and, what I've personally found, is that most people are appreciative of any help they can get.

The side bar to it all (and I never expect it... it just seems to happen) is that you'll get back much more than you could ever put into answering such questions. You've not only given yourself an excuse to possibly research and solve a real life problem you may not have seen before, you'll sharpen your skills in code and in effectively communicating with others, learn from the posting of others where you may not have even looked at such a problem before, and make some incredible professional and personal friendships that will actually last you a lifetime. Done right, you'll also be building your "brand" (which Steve Jones will remind us is incredibly important for our careers) and, someday in the future during a phone interview for a new job, you'll be able to say "Google me" with a great amount of pride. The key is to not let that pride go to your head on the boards or at work. Humility, knowledge, skill (and, yes, they are different), the "right attitude", and the ability to effectively communicate methods and techniques are things that I look for when I interview people for senior positions and I believe that's the underlying criteria that most good employers look for in candidates.

Ah... sorry... didn't mean to get on the soapbox about all that but it is what I believe and I also believe that most of the heavy hitters on this and other forums are made of the same stuff.

As "Red-Green" would say, "We're all in this together and I'm pullin' for ya."
Very well put on several points, Jeff. And you're right. On another note, why am I not surprised that you know what "quando omni flunkus moritaki" is?


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Posted Friday, May 23, 2014 8:26 AM


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Steve, can anything be done about shrills like this:
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1573887.aspx

He's posting on thread after thread on damaged DBs, missing backups, etc, usually talking garbage and with links to that DB recovery software.


Looks like it has been blown away. Dang it.


If you're curious, it was referencing this www.sqlrecoverysoftware.net/blog/sql-database-in-recovery-mode.html (very intentionally not created as a link)

For homework, see how many errors you can find in that article



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Posted Friday, May 23, 2014 8:30 AM


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Steve, can anything be done about shrills like this:
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1573887.aspx

He's posting on thread after thread on damaged DBs, missing backups, etc, usually talking garbage and with links to that DB recovery software.


Looks like it has been blown away. Dang it.


If you're curious, it was referencing this www.sqlrecoverysoftware.net/blog/sql-database-in-recovery-mode.html (very intentionally not created as a link)

For homework, see how many errors you can find in that article


K, I've seen that link. I actually followed it once and found it to be pitiful. Since then I have been reporting those links as spam.




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Posted Friday, May 23, 2014 9:32 AM


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Does anybody else feel a bit frustrated when there is no response from the OP after you post an answer to a question? I know that this is a global site and people work all kinds of hours and shifts but it would be nice to have had some kind of reply after a couple of days. Even if this reply is, 'what you suggested doesn't work. Have you got any other ideas?' That would be better than nothing. I'd like to think that the OP hasn't come back because my answer was exactly what they wanted and nothing further needed to be said, in this case a thank you would be appreciated.


Yes, it is frustrating at times but as Gail said you do get used to it. What is also frustrating, though, is when an OP does come back and says 'what you suggested doesn't work. Have you got any other ideas?' but doesn't bother to tell you why your suggestion didn't work.



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Does anybody else feel a bit frustrated when there is no response from the OP after you post an answer to a question? I know that this is a global site and people work all kinds of hours and shifts but it would be nice to have had some kind of reply after a couple of days. Even if this reply is, 'what you suggested doesn't work. Have you got any other ideas?' That would be better than nothing. I'd like to think that the OP hasn't come back because my answer was exactly what they wanted and nothing further needed to be said, in this case a thank you would be appreciated.


Better ignored than argued with incorrectly. Or worse, the "yeah, but we can't change anything, anywhere, anytime, now how do I fix it" responses.


Oh goodness. I definitely fall into that second camp there to a degree, since I've worked with nothing but vendor software so far . I know I can't really make many changes to what the vendor nonsense does, but when I've asked for help with what I CAN change, the responses here have been great, and they've done a lot of good.

Thanks for all the help you all put out! I know it can be frustrating (heck, even I get frustrated reading some of the posts I've seen here, and I can't even begin to help!), but I'm sure there's tons of people that appreciate the effort, myself definitely included .

Oh, and if I've fallen into the trap of being less than appreciative of anyone's assistance, please feel free to whap me on the head a good few times




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Does anybody else feel a bit frustrated when there is no response from the OP after you post an answer to a question? I know that this is a global site and people work all kinds of hours and shifts but it would be nice to have had some kind of reply after a couple of days. Even if this reply is, 'what you suggested doesn't work. Have you got any other ideas?' That would be better than nothing. I'd like to think that the OP hasn't come back because my answer was exactly what they wanted and nothing further needed to be said, in this case a thank you would be appreciated.


Yes, it is frustrating at times but as Gail said you do get used to it. What is also frustrating, though, is when an OP does come back and says 'what you suggested doesn't work. Have you got any other ideas?' but doesn't bother to tell you why your suggestion didn't work.

Or does tell you why it doesn't work, demonstrating that his earlier posts have been utterly misleading as to what he was trying to do.


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Does anybody else feel a bit frustrated when there is no response from the OP after you post an answer to a question? I know that this is a global site and people work all kinds of hours and shifts but it would be nice to have had some kind of reply after a couple of days. Even if this reply is, 'what you suggested doesn't work. Have you got any other ideas?' That would be better than nothing. I'd like to think that the OP hasn't come back because my answer was exactly what they wanted and nothing further needed to be said, in this case a thank you would be appreciated.


Yes, but it's what it is. They may post on STackOverflow as well and get an answer (or anywhere else). They may figure it out. They may be intimidated by responses.

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