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Posted Monday, August 19, 2013 11:18 AM


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Just looking in a minute, while stopping to grab a donut. I feel compelled to ask this water-cooler question. Have the posted questions continued to get worse over time?


Nah, once a question is posted, it stays about the same.


Actually some of them do actually get worse when rereading them.


Have they gotten worse or have you gotten better?


That depends on which inertial frame you are observing the system from.


If old posts are getting worse, would that mean that average is getting better and so answer to original question is No, questions are not getting worse :)
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Just looking in a minute, while stopping to grab a donut. I feel compelled to ask this water-cooler question. Have the posted questions continued to get worse over time?


Nah, once a question is posted, it stays about the same.


Actually some of them do actually get worse when rereading them.


Have they gotten worse or have you gotten better?


That depends on which inertial frame you are observing the system from.


If old posts are getting worse, would that mean that average is getting better and so answer to original question is No, questions are not getting worse :)

I think the number of people posting questions without first doing one iota of research has gone up. I also think the homework questions have increased. Don't get me wrong - there are some really good ones out there and I have learned a lot just from reading them. However, there are a lot of awful ones where people don't know how to research anything for themselves or even how to post a question.



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Just looking in a minute, while stopping to grab a donut. I feel compelled to ask this water-cooler question. Have the posted questions continued to get worse over time?


Nah, once a question is posted, it stays about the same.


Actually some of them do actually get worse when rereading them.


Have they gotten worse or have you gotten better?


That depends on which inertial frame you are observing the system from.


If old posts are getting worse, would that mean that average is getting better and so answer to original question is No, questions are not getting worse :)

I think the number of people posting questions without first doing one iota of research has gone up. I also think the homework questions have increased. Don't get me wrong - there are some really good ones out there and I have learned a lot just from reading them. However, there are a lot of awful ones where people don't know how to research anything for themselves or even how to post a question.

What about a user that has been around since January and keeps asking questions about data type conversions, never posting sample data and all of his requirements are urgent?

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I think the number of people posting questions without first doing one iota of research has gone up. I also think the homework questions have increased. Don't get me wrong - there are some really good ones out there and I have learned a lot just from reading them. However, there are a lot of awful ones where people don't know how to research anything for themselves or even how to post a question.


I would tend to agree with this. It seems like, when I'm actually answering questions, I can do a simple search and get the answer to a lot more questions than in the past. You know that is when I don't know the answer off the top of my head.




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I think the number of people posting questions without first doing one iota of research has gone up. I also think the homework questions have increased. Don't get me wrong - there are some really good ones out there and I have learned a lot just from reading them. However, there are a lot of awful ones where people don't know how to research anything for themselves or even how to post a question.


+1

A lot of questions posted recently can surely be solved with a quick Google search.

ps: this is my 3rd attempt to quote Ed. Thanks Luis and Jack for messing with the quote bug




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I think the number of people posting questions without first doing one iota of research has gone up. I also think the homework questions have increased. Don't get me wrong - there are some really good ones out there and I have learned a lot just from reading them. However, there are a lot of awful ones where people don't know how to research anything for themselves or even how to post a question.


There's been a lot of questions lately that I've read and just walked away. Not sure if that's indicative of the question or my state of mind, but....



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I think the number of people posting questions without first doing one iota of research has gone up. I also think the homework questions have increased. Don't get me wrong - there are some really good ones out there and I have learned a lot just from reading them. However, there are a lot of awful ones where people don't know how to research anything for themselves or even how to post a question.


There's been a lot of questions lately that I've read and just walked away. Not sure if that's indicative of the question or my state of mind, but....


I've had questions like these as well, where the posted question is just such a mess or unclear that I think it will take me too much time to make sense of it.




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I think the number of people posting questions without first doing one iota of research has gone up. I also think the homework questions have increased. Don't get me wrong - there are some really good ones out there and I have learned a lot just from reading them. However, there are a lot of awful ones where people don't know how to research anything for themselves or even how to post a question.


There's been a lot of questions lately that I've read and just walked away. Not sure if that's indicative of the question or my state of mind, but....


I've had questions like these as well, where the posted question is just such a mess or unclear that I think it will take me too much time to make sense of it.

Yeah...me too. There are quite a few questions where there simply isn't a request or question, so I don't even bother. For those with questions, I find some of them flat-out frightening and it makes me wonder how some people are working with a database at all. You'd think a basic understanding is required to get a job, but...

The most frustrating ones for me are where they give you only part of the information required to solve the problem or it has errors. You ask for more information and they still don't give it to you and just restate their original question.



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I think the number of people posting questions without first doing one iota of research has gone up. I also think the homework questions have increased. Don't get me wrong - there are some really good ones out there and I have learned a lot just from reading them. However, there are a lot of awful ones where people don't know how to research anything for themselves or even how to post a question.


There's been a lot of questions lately that I've read and just walked away. Not sure if that's indicative of the question or my state of mind, but....


I've had questions like these as well, where the posted question is just such a mess or unclear that I think it will take me too much time to make sense of it.

Yeah...me too. There are quite a few questions where there simply isn't a request or question, so I don't even bother. For those with questions, I find some of them flat-out frightening and it makes me wonder how some people are working with a database at all. You'd think a basic understanding is required to get a job, but...

The most frustrating ones for me are where they give you only part of the information required to solve the problem or it has errors. You ask for more information and they still don't give it to you and just restate their original question.


I think there are quite a few people who get a job tending a database for a department because they've shown they know Excel better than anyone else in the group. The boss is told databases work better for lots of data, so they put their "data person" in charge of it with no training. Hiring an expert costs too much, training costs too much, so you get bad databases and people who don't really know what to do with them floundering around and ending up here.


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Just looking in a minute, while stopping to grab a donut. I feel compelled to ask this water-cooler question. Have the posted questions continued to get worse over time?


Nah, once a question is posted, it stays about the same.

Actually, some of them change quite a lot - some OPs use the edit feature to change their posts when they realise that they have been demonstrating irrationality, impoliteness, and pig-headedness.


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