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Posted Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:21 PM


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wldhrs (5/6/2010)
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Jeff, you're sounding (reading?) almost as jaded as I am.


Heh... if you mean tired of the deprecation and removal of useful features in favor of pretty GUI's that have a 10th of the functionality then yeah... I'm real jaded.

... and sql server are going to have the best marketing around 'cos I've sure as hell invested a lot of my life in what I consider a technically very good set of solutions...



Spot on and ditto... I couldn't have said it better myself. Let's hope we don't go the way of the Dodo bird (or is that the DOH! bird ) and the FoxPro programmer.


--Jeff Moden
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Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column."

(play on words) "Just because you CAN do something in T-SQL, doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T." --22 Aug 2013

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The more tools you have in your toolbelt the better off you will be.

Regarding the making simple things simpler...sometimes that can be useful, but other times not. Using the tool analogy, if I have a shingle to replace on my roof, I am going to use a razor knife, a hammer (the manual kind) and a regular roofing nail, if I have a new roof to install I am going to use more automation ( a nail or staple gun loaded with all the hardware I need) to do the simple thing over and over.

Regarding hiding the complexity, I agree completely. There are many times I recall having trouble getting far enough into a hidden complex task that would have been easier to do the hard way because at least that way I knew how it worked and why it worked.
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dbowlin (5/10/2010)
The more tools you have in your toolbelt the better off you will be.


There is such a thing as carrying too many tools on your "toolbelt" and has the same effect if you can imagine a plumber bent over under the sink.


--Jeff Moden
"RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for "Row-By-Agonizing-Row".

First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column."

(play on words) "Just because you CAN do something in T-SQL, doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T." --22 Aug 2013

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to post performance problems
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Posted Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:37 AM


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Jeff Moden (5/10/2010)
dbowlin (5/10/2010)
The more tools you have in your toolbelt the better off you will be.


There is such a thing as carrying too many tools on your "toolbelt" and has the same effect if you can imagine a plumber bent over under the sink.


But i NEED my laser guided beta beam dissasembler...


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