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Tim Mitchell
Tim Mitchell
Posted Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:56 PM
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Help Others, Help Yourself
Tim Mitchell
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Jeff Moden
Jeff Moden
Posted Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:23 PM
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But there is another, often unplanned, effect: when you spend time helping others, you also improve your own skills.
By golly, Tim... truer words never spoken. Excellent editorial by one of those "seasoned professionals". Should be required reading for everyone on SSC. Now, if we could just get people to understand the notion...
--Jeff Moden
"
RBAR
is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for "
R
ow-
B
y-
A
gonizing-
R
ow".
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column."
For better, quicker answers on T-SQL questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/
For better answers on performance questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQLServerCentral/66909/
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Michael Irwin
Michael Irwin
Posted Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:35 PM
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I've been happily doing this for about 20 years now with various different tools. Your description is spot-on. Rather than being required reading for all members, it should be required doing for all! -- Mike
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WillC9999
WillC9999
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:30 AM
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There is another benefit of giving advice. I find that I actually understand something better myself when I try to explain it to someone else - like the thoughts become better arranged in my mind.
All I need to do now is learn enough to be useful
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calico-604598
calico-604598
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:23 AM
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Hi,
what I really appreciate, is when the person come back to the forum at the end and explain to us how he/she finally resolved his/her issue
I am frustated when many people try to help someone and we don't know wish solution fixed the problem.
Calico
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Bryan Richardson
Bryan Richardson
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:45 AM
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So true, Tim. I find that when I help others the topic tends to be clearer in my head as well. since I don't want to go on my own assumptions about how certain things work when I'm answering questions I do more research which helps to clarify the topic for me.
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NicHopper
NicHopper
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:47 AM
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Excellent article Tim, and as Jeff noted, "truer words never spoke".
I think it provides an important reminder (certainly to myself) that we are all part of the cycle - albeit at different stages, and as such, almost have a responsibility to help members of the community out.
Only hope I can help others, the way that others have help me!
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http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/
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TravisDBA
TravisDBA
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:09 AM
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This simple axiom applies to life in general, people. It has very little to do specifically just with giving SQL Server advice. It's called Karma. When you always give of yourself in ANYTHING in life, it comes back to you sooner or later in some benefical way. Conversely, when you take from everyone else in life, that too comes back to you in a bad way.... sooner or later. Not hard to figure out. :)
"Technology is a weird thing. It brings you great gifts with one hand, and it stabs you in the back with the other. ...
"
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rick-507511
rick-507511
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:23 AM
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Well, folks, I'm so seasoned that I'm pretty salty. I've been helped by a number of good folks over a 40 year career, and have helped train a number of new folks too, one of whom is now my boss. While these online forums are a good thing and I've used them periodically, we need to be sure we responsibly fulfill our own tasks and duties to our own positions before we provide too much 'free' help to these groups. I work with a 'young' man who spends much of his employer's time online helping everyone else with his 'vast storehouse of knowledge' instead of digging in and getting involved in our own issues.
By the way, I'm writing this at 6:30 AM with coffee, not while at my desk on 'company time'.
April 30, 2010, over and out. Fare well, me hearties.
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TravisDBA
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Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:33 AM
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rick-507511 (1/20/2010)
Well, folks, I'm so seasoned that I'm pretty salty. I've been helped by a number of good folks over a 40 year career, and have helped train a number of new folks too, one of whom is now my boss. While these online forums are a good thing and I've used them periodically, we need to be sure we responsibly fulfill our own tasks and duties to our own positions before we provide too much 'free' help to these groups. I work with a 'young' man who spends much of his employer's time online helping everyone else with his 'vast storehouse of knowledge' instead of digging in and getting involved in our own issues.
By the way, I'm writing this at 6:30 AM with coffee, not while at my desk on 'company time'.
April 30, 2010, over and out. Fare well, me hearties.
Well said my man. Giving free advice should never eclipse or infringe on what you are PAID to do.....I have fired a few of those people in the past myself. Evidently, they did not realize the company was monitoring their web activity! :) But they sure figured it out quick enough when they got escorted off the premises. Bottom line, give advice on your own time, not mine or the company's. ) I post at home on my time, never at work...I'll bet that is not the case for a lot of people who give advice on this forum....
"Technology is a weird thing. It brings you great gifts with one hand, and it stabs you in the back with the other. ...
"
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