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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:57 AM
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While I agree that networking is a vital part of staying in touch for any new position, should you happen to be looking for a new one, there are other aspects to networking.
For those of us who are comfortable in our positions and choose NOT to look for a new position, networking with your peers has other values. You may learn about a new technology that a business associate is working on that could help your company. You may learn that Company XYZ is offering discounts on hardware / software that you were not aware of. You may hear that someone is having difficulties and you could end up mentoring that individual with your experience, or point that individual to someone you know that solved that particular issue. You may learn that a competitor has lost a contract and there is a business opportunity to be followed up on. And, there is the opportunity to get out of the office and mingle, learn new stuff, and see how the rest of your peers are doing. Perhaps to even be thankful you have a secure position.
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Julie Breutzmann
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nelsonj-902869 (9/22/2009)
While I agree that networking is a vital part of staying in touch for any new position, should you happen to be looking for a new one, there are other aspects to networking.
Thanks for sharing other values to networking.
Julie
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:40 AM
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Nelson, excellent points. I hadn't thought about it in those terms, but there is definitely value in those situations.
One more, you might find a great person that you want to get hired at your company as well.
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Posted Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:47 PM
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Steve, you and Nelson are absolutely spot on. I'll add one more important reason to network and it's the diametric opposite to what most people think... it helps you find out which companies you DON'T ever want to work for and it helps find out what the worst ways to do some things are. Knowing the right way to do something certainly helps but knowing the wrong way to do something so you can quickly rule it out is a big help, as well.
For example, would you want to work for a company where you heard "Yeah... the CTO likes to buy everything off the shelf and for any in-house projects that may survive, really mandates the use of cursors because they're easy to understand."
By the way... I won't mention the company, but I
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:51 AM
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Don't know. That sounds like employment for life! Might be THE place to work.
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Posted Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:59 AM
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All of these things are true..i was someone who was hired purely on the basis of network contacts even before the position was opened up. The importance of 'knowing the grapevine' within the workplace cannot be under estimated. Equally huge are the advantages of knowing good bad and ugly place to work for. But I have some experiences with hiring ex collegues you think are good while you move or leave. It is guaranteed to screw up your relationship with ex management or ex bosses (if you think that matters). In one case i knew someone was sued - he knew how much his peers were making, moved to a new place and got them jobs at higher pay so the older company sued him for using confidential information (in this case their salaries). I really don't know what came of that but just an example. Similarly one of my other friends who ran a user group was barked at by management of two companies for spreading bad opinions on them - since she knew lot of places people would come to her for opinions and once or twice she said what she knew on email. Just stuff to watch out for.
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Thanks for the comment, Steve.
dma said:
All of these things are true.. Similarly one of my other friends who ran a user group was barked at by management of two companies for spreading bad opinions on them - since she knew lot of places people would come to her for opinions and once or twice she said what she knew on email. Just stuff to watch out for.
My mama always told me...." that if you can't say something 'nice' about someone, don't say nothin at all......" and this applies within the networking realm. Now a days, you can get sued for "not being truthful" in your comments, but if you have proof that what you told someone is true, then let the company sue, but make sure you have documentation to back you up. No documentation - then about the only thing I would recommend is to say..."I can't comment on that..." and let it go. If pressed for details, look the person in the eyes and slowly repeat that you can't comment. If the questioner has half a brain, your eye contact should register. Better to say nothing than to leave yourself wide open to a lawsuit. What ever you do....never put a comment in an email. Bad-d-d-d-d idea, since email is forever and subject to litigation at any time.
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Posted Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:14 AM
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Very well said..and for those who are interested there is this site glassdoor.com that has anonymous reviews of companies including salaries, reviews and even interview questions.
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Jeff Moden
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Posted Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:41 AM
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Steve Jones - Editor (9/23/2009)
Don't know. That sounds like employment for life! Might be THE place to work.
BWAA-HAAA!!! Hadn't thought about it THAT way! You could be right!
--Jeff Moden
"
RBAR
is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for "
R
ow-
B
y-
A
gonizing-
R
ow".
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column."
For better, quicker answers on T-SQL questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/
For better answers on performance questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQLServerCentral/66909/
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