Click here to monitor SSC
SQLServerCentral is supported by Red Gate Software Ltd.
 
Log in  ::  Register  ::  Not logged in
 
 
 
        
Home       Members    Calendar    Who's On


Add to briefcase 12345»»»

Trust Expand / Collapse
Author
Message
Posted Monday, February 9, 2009 12:18 PM


SSC-Dedicated

SSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-Dedicated

Group: Administrators
Last Login: Today @ 5:59 PM
Points: 31,082, Visits: 15,529
Comments posted to this topic are about the item Trust






Follow me on Twitter: @way0utwest

Forum Etiquette: How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help
Post #653109
Posted Monday, February 9, 2009 12:41 PM


SSChampion

SSChampionSSChampionSSChampionSSChampionSSChampionSSChampionSSChampionSSChampionSSChampionSSChampion

Group: General Forum Members
Last Login: Friday, June 27, 2014 12:43 PM
Points: 13,872, Visits: 9,596
My personal policy is to trust everyone I meet until I'm given a reason otherwise. Same for respect. I'm also a firm believer that people can and often do change for the better.

On the other hand, I have a concealed weapons license for my pistol, and made sure my wife has the same, I lock the doors on my apartment and my car, and I take measures to prevent loss of walet and cellphone when in public crowds.

There's a tremendous trend right now (and for about the last 50 years) towards not believing in consequences. Why that's come about is a big subject and way beyond the scope of a post in this forum. The end result is that there are a lot of people who are firmly convinced that any harm they do to others isn't "a big deal".

In Friday, Heinlein noted that one of the first signs of decay of a civilization is loss of respect and manners. Based on a lot of study of history, I have to agree with that conclusion.


- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
Property of The Thread

"Nobody knows the age of the human race, but everyone agrees it's old enough to know better." - Anon
Post #653132
Posted Monday, February 9, 2009 12:50 PM


SSC-Dedicated

SSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-DedicatedSSC-Dedicated

Group: Administrators
Last Login: Today @ 5:59 PM
Points: 31,082, Visits: 15,529
Good policy, and I tend to do that as well. Seems naive at times, but I'd like to think most people are worthy of trust.







Follow me on Twitter: @way0utwest

Forum Etiquette: How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help
Post #653143
Posted Monday, February 9, 2009 1:17 PM
SSCrazy

SSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazy

Group: General Forum Members
Last Login: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:39 AM
Points: 2,803, Visits: 3,068
I don't trust anyone at work anymore since I had been burnt too many times. I trusted someone and ended up that person stabbed me at the back!!!!
Especially at this time, people are more concerned about their job security, they tend not to share knowledge and unwilling to help out.
Maybe it is just happened to me.
Post #653173
Posted Monday, February 9, 2009 1:38 PM


SSCrazy

SSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazySSCrazy

Group: General Forum Members
Last Login: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:09 AM
Points: 2,049, Visits: 3,585
Dr John Stott

"Nearly all legislation has grown up because we simply cannot be trusted to settle our disputes with justice and without self-interest. A promise is not enough; we need a contract. Doors are not enough; we have to lock and bolt them. The payment of fares is not enough; tickets have to be issued, inspected and collected. Law and order are not enough; we need the police to enforce them. .... We cannot trust each other. We need protection against one another. It is a terrible indication of what human nature is really like."


David

@SQLTentmaker
SQL Tentmaker
“He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose” - Jim Elliot
Post #653193
Posted Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:09 AM
Ten Centuries

Ten CenturiesTen CenturiesTen CenturiesTen CenturiesTen CenturiesTen CenturiesTen CenturiesTen Centuries

Group: General Forum Members
Last Login: Today @ 3:36 AM
Points: 1,051, Visits: 1,123
Unfortunately, the major banks in the world have been left alone, with very "light touch" regulation. A few years back we had the debacle with Auditors colluding with the companies they were supposed to be auditing.

And now we have banks going bankrupt (and costing ordinary taxpayers billions) because they were given autonomy and freedom. That freedom led to greed and crazy bonuses for taking crazy risks with investments. Auditing is far too little far too late.

Sorry, just proves yet again that many, many people cannot be trusted, and that means none of us can be trusted. Cheery thoughts.

Andy
Post #653470
Posted Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:27 AM
SSC Rookie

SSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC Rookie

Group: General Forum Members
Last Login: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:32 AM
Points: 45, Visits: 182
Well, the flip side of the greed, was the presumed promise that the Federal Govt through Fannie and Freddie was going to be on the limb for the mandated lending policies. So yes, you can trust the banks to be "greedy", but they would not have been greedy without someone else being on the hook for the bad policies force on them. Does this help us understand that we are the guys writing the checks for government, good and bad?

I am not sure that more regulation would have exposed that banks were making bad loans. If the Fannie/Freddie promise was not there, and the banks would have been held liable for these loans, then the kickback would have been much stronger. Instead they were able to make their margins and resell the loans upstream to the Federally backed entities. So as much as some congressmen are dangling out the regulation bait, their role in things needs to be understood.

Trust is a hard thing. One one hand, you have lazy people that will do what is asked of them and only what is asked on them. You have people that are only looking for "advantages", then you have the people that honestly do care. For the first group, I make sure the instruction are as clear as possible and do the 'thinking' for them to specify what contingencies I need handled. For the second group, I have a personal problem dealing with them, but try to redirect them to what is needed. For the last group, just be there to help and point them where they can help the best.

I would agree Steve. For the most part the people I deal with are civil and well mannered. I do not think we are doomed yet, but there are increasing pressures on society to embrace belligerence and not think of others.
Post #653557
Posted Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:39 AM
SSC Rookie

SSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC RookieSSC Rookie

Group: General Forum Members
Last Login: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:36 AM
Points: 49, Visits: 263
Greed is what I blame it on. If there weren't greedy people wanting to get something for nothing then we wouldn't have people/companies being sued (sp?) over the smallest incidents. If people didn't steel we wouldn't need to worry about being mugged, or having our homes violated.

If the bankers weren't greedy, wanting there big bonus's, giving people who can't afford credit credit but with silly interest rates, cos they know they will just make the interest payments.

If we could live without greed, we could trust each other again.
Post #653563
Posted Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:29 AM


SSC-Enthusiastic

SSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-Enthusiastic

Group: General Forum Members
Last Login: Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:25 AM
Points: 162, Visits: 694
The lawyers and politicians need job security, so let's constantly create fear and a crisis...

I agree with the sentiment, trust / respect your fellow man until shown reasons not to. Personally, I have a hard time, that's not quite strong enough, with people that walk around saying "You have to EARN my respect". Bullshit. That's a major problem with today's society. EVERYONE deserves respect until they do/say something to LOSE it.

As far as trusting society at large... I guess my studies in jiu jitsu, and successful completion of LFI-4 are a good indication of how much I trust the common man.



Honor Super Omnia-
Jason Miller
Post #653594
Posted Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:32 AM
SSC-Enthusiastic

SSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-EnthusiasticSSC-Enthusiastic

Group: General Forum Members
Last Login: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:43 AM
Points: 134, Visits: 111
Wow.

In your editorial, you stated " but as I reread the second paragraph it struck me that this person is upset with the apparent decline of western civilization. I think this person is the minority, or at least I hope so,"

Did I read this wrong, or are you really excited that "western civilization" is in decline? Please let me know, as I will be sure to unsubscribe if it is true. I really hope I just misinterpreted it, as I love the site, but can't support this philosophy.
Post #653628
« Prev Topic | Next Topic »

Add to briefcase 12345»»»

Permissions Expand / Collapse