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Posted Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:52 PM
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under no circumstances should the agency be authorized to send any details without an approval.


Agencies send candidates all the time without approval. I have seen agencies even doctor up resumes for a candidate with my resume or other people that I know really well. It is always a riot when the agency then submits said resume to you for their candidate - and it is your resume.


Well the good ones, meaning those with a good sense of ethics, won't do either of those things. The ones I have worked with have always contacted me before sending my resume to potential clients.

That's a proper way of doing the job, hence if one finds one of those, one sticks to them.
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under no circumstances should the agency be authorized to send any details without an approval.


Agencies send candidates all the time without approval. I have seen agencies even doctor up resumes for a candidate with my resume or other people that I know really well. It is always a riot when the agency then submits said resume to you for their candidate - and it is your resume.


Well the good ones, meaning those with a good sense of ethics, won't do either of those things. The ones I have worked with have always contacted me before sending my resume to potential clients.

That's a proper way of doing the job, hence if one finds one of those, one sticks to them.


I have four that I trust. All are local, and when I say local, that means they have offices local to me. All of them have offices across the US. I'm finding it harder to trust the national agencies that have no local presence to do things right, and all it took was working with one.

They were too busy telling about all the Fortune 100 companies that the provide talent for than actually working to help find work.



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Lynn, what happens if your job has finished/end of contract and you are starting another search, but none of four agencies in your circle have any SQL Server openings at the moment? Will you respond to a Dice ad from another agency for a job local to you, or will wait until one of your 4 agencies will have something?

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Lynn, what happens if your job has finished/end of contract and you are starting another search, but none of four agencies in your circle have any SQL Server openings at the moment? Will you respond to a Dice ad from another agency for a job local to you, or will wait until one of your 4 agencies will have something?



Trust me, I'm looking as well. I don't come home from Afghanistan until the end of February and I am watching the jobs even now. Seen some good ones, but the money is good out here and I am going to keep collecting until I come home. I'll start a more active search about 2 months out from my redeployment date.

Plus, needing to carry insurance, I am looking for full-time work still.



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Not had any experience of recruitment agencies in the US but the ones in the UK (especially for contract work) can be very much hit and miss, usually miss.

They are quite obessed with getting references from you even though the contract doesn't even exist. Been caught out when I was a noob contract but takes experience to work out what is real and genuine and what is not.


Lynn, can I ask what it was like to work out in Afghanistan? That sound like an interesting gig.

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Not had any experience of recruitment agencies in the US but the ones in the UK (especially for contract work) can be very much hit and miss, usually miss.

They are quite obessed with getting references from you even though the contract doesn't even exist. Been caught out when I was a noob contract but takes experience to work out what is real and genuine and what is not.


Lynn, can I ask what it was like to work out in Afghanistan? That sound like an interesting gig.

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You know, it is actually hard to describe other than you work, you eat, you sleep, rinse and repeat daily. I haven't, but need to, also work out daily (some even twice a day).

I work 12+ hours a day every day. Right now we are only allowed to bill 72 hours a week, so 12 hours are unpaid. Part of this is due to the draw down. As bases have been closed or consolidated we have also had to reduce our manning foot print as well. Fewer people means we need to put in more time, unfortunately the money to bill 84 hours isn't there anymore. There are a few positions that are able to take a couple of half days off during the week, but the engineers (sys admins and the lone dba) are needed.

I have actually enjoyed being out here, not just for the money. I have actually been learning things that will be of benefit when I return to the states and find a new position. Unfortunately back in September 2013 I was informed that my position with the company back home was eliminated during a RIF. Luckily I have been able to continue working for them out here.

It does get a bit old, but then there are the occasional IDF attacks, mostly at night when I am working but some during the day.

Would I recommend it, that depends. I have heard of some people coming out here and after the first near miss requesting to go back home. There have been others that have been out here in Iraq and Afghanistan for 10 years. Not sure if I could do it for that long.




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Ah, if I understand right, you are in US army deployed in Afghanistan?

And the local agencies they are local to Afghanistan or to your home state in US?

And just curious, you mentioned about IDF attacks, that is Israeli army?
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Ah, if I understand right, you are in US army deployed in Afghanistan?

And the local agencies they are local to Afghanistan or to your home state in US?

And just curious, you mentioned about IDF attacks, that is Israeli army?


No, I am not in the military. I am a civilian contractor.

IDF is Indirect Fire. Can be rockets (usually), artillery (rarely), or mortar (sometimes). Usually just a few rounds, nothing continuous.

Not sure about your second question.



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Ah, if I understand right, you are in US army deployed in Afghanistan?

And the local agencies they are local to Afghanistan or to your home state in US?

And just curious, you mentioned about IDF attacks, that is Israeli army?


No, I am not in the military. I am a civilian contractor.

IDF is Indirect Fire. Can be rockets (usually), artillery (rarely), or mortar (sometimes). Usually just a few rounds, nothing continuous.

Not sure about your second question.


Looks like he is trying to figure out if you are using the Agencies from the states for your job search or something in Afghanistan.




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Ah, if I understand right, you are in US army deployed in Afghanistan?

And the local agencies they are local to Afghanistan or to your home state in US?

And just curious, you mentioned about IDF attacks, that is Israeli army?


No, I am not in the military. I am a civilian contractor.

IDF is Indirect Fire. Can be rockets (usually), artillery (rarely), or mortar (sometimes). Usually just a few rounds, nothing continuous.

Not sure about your second question.


Looks like he is trying to figure out if you are using the Agencies from the states for your job search or something in Afghanistan.


Oh. Nope. I actually found this position using a job board, find the right job. Position was actually in Colorado Spring, CO as an FTE. Going to Afghanistan was a voluntary option that I am glad I took.



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